1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults • Hacker News Board

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by efreak » Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 9:45 AM UTC

prepend wrote: post #634

beefjerkins wrote: post #402

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was just thinking the exact same thing. For technical and especially non-technical folk, getting a full nextcloud host set up and working is going to take significantly more time than a simple login into 1Password, where it just works.

Dropbox, OneDrive, icloud, and others have a free tier that is completely sufficient for a password vault. Their client used to support this and they stopped. Because their current way makes them more money. Their old client was super easy for non-technical users and groups (just enter Dropbox credentials, etc).

Box.net supports webdav if that's what you want. I'm not aware of any other big name cloud storage providers that offer support for standard protocols. It's available for free accounts, too. This does mean the files aren't encrypted, however if your vault is encrypted that may not matter to you.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by MagicWishMonkey » Sun, Aug 15, 2021, 7:41 PM UTC

Hackbraten wrote: post #566

MagicWishMonkey wrote: post #513

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not going away any time soon, the app is still available for MacOS and the browser extensions work just fine. Eventually they will stop supporting them but that'll just mean at some point in the future a MacOS/firefox/chrome update will break the existing app and they won't fix it. That might be 2 months from now or it might be 2+ years.

And once that happens, you may no longer be able to access your passwords.

Sure, if you longer have a way to use an older version of MacOS. Not a good idea to leave your sole copy on a machine you don't have full control over.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 3:45 PM UTC

movedx wrote: post #549

Spivak wrote: post #485

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Why not? I had this setup for years before switching to bitwarden_rs. You have apps on every device to access your password database and do autofill. I stored everything in KeePass, recovery keys, TOTP seeds, sensitive documents and notes. I get the password sharing thing for families but for a single user they have the same featureset. The only thing missing is browser access but even though I now have browser acces…

It's not the same thing because the whole argument being made is in the context of 1Password and its target audience: normal users. That's your mum and dad and other very likely non-techie people. Your choice of solution isn't the same thing.

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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by mdaniel » Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 3:53 PM UTC

mdaniel wrote: post #275

eloeffler wrote: post #14

I've never tried 1Password but I've seen many here who endorse it. Does anyone have experience with both 1Password and KeepassXC? Especially with 1Password local vaults...

I used KeePassXC as the Linux client for 1Password before there was one from AgileBits, and stopped short of implementing _write_ for the opvault format because that wasn't in my use case (and I also had some non-trivial concerns about KeePassXC accepting the PR, so I was trying to pitch it as a way to get more people to import 1Password opvaults) I would be on-board with implementing the write side to opvault if the…

> Then again, with all the massive outpouring of Bitwarden support in every single one of these threads ever, I am pretty sure the real solution is just to bite the bullet and jump ship to Bitwarden/vaultwarden like everyone else seems to be doing

To follow myself up, I seem to have found another "those people don't know what they're missing" situation because I actually did try Bitwarden (Premium) this weekend and what a dumpster fire compared to 1P

I thought about writing up all the shitshow, but ultimately it just boils down to them not caring about their product or users

For some of the platforms, I would actually be on-board with jumping in to fix the innumerable bugs, but with them being a mixed setup (open and "premium" features), the fact that so much fundamental behavior has been broken for so long with no obvious mitigation strategy makes me question whether this is something I would want to invest in

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by dschuetz » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 7:26 AM UTC

fortuna86 wrote: post #659

dschuetz wrote: post #119

Oooh, I see, my passwords are far more securely secured in The Cloud then? How do they plan to stay in business? "We have your passwords now! You would not want to lose them unless you agree to our new pricing policy now, would you?"

"Our prices have gone up, you don't want to lose access, do you?"

This is exactly what happens with Office 365 now lol