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Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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The quote was: "If I were a Jew I would be concerned about my insatiable appetite for war and killing in defense of myself" Yes, the sentiment is (possibly) anti-israel, not anti-semetic, but the wording itself implies that Jews have insatiable appetites for war. I'm not saying it wasn't an honest mistake, but someone who is chief diversity officer at a major corporation should certainly be attuned to the difference…

But it was also quoted worse in the tweets. "If I were a Jew I would be concerned about my insatiable appetite for war and killing in defense of myself," (…) "If I were a Jew today, my sensibilities would be tormented. I would find it increasingly difficult to reconcile the long cycles of oppression that Jewish people have endured and the insatiable appetite for vengeful violence that Israel, my homeland, has now acq…

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The main thing I find odd about that person's blog post ( https://web.archive.org/web/20210601160519/https://www.kamau... ) is that it also doesn't really make any sense mechanically. The first five paragraphs are all comments on how it must be difficult for a progressive Jew to simultaneously support progressive values and Israel > If I were a Jew today, my sensibilities would be tormented. I would find it increasin…

I think he must have established by the end the Jews he is referring to are those who support Israeli aggression. Not all Jews.

This is how I read it as well, although some are less charitable with how they interpret actions in the moment -- people mis speak all the time and are heavily criticized for it. As another commentor suggested, this was probably not a carefully thought through thesis but more of a thought piece put together in a short time frame and meant more as an expression than some hill to die on. My charitable reading is that the last section (and title) perhaps carry the piece too far away from nationalist Jew and into ethnic Jew which aren't quite the same. Perhaps if the Author had thought through their goal and audience more thoroughly they might have re-worded it. Hard to tell. I think it is otherwise a thought provoking piece.

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Do you think purposely hiring X group is a bad practice? From what I understand, it's not enough to say "we'll hire X if they're better than Y". When you don't actually have any X at the moment, your company might not be very welcoming to X, and so they won't join. So you purposely go out of your way to hire extra X, to account for the lower acceptance rate. The common response is "that's not fair to Y, you should be…

I believe that people should be treated as individuals, not collectivized into groups based on immutable characteristics like ethnicity. I believe that while "reverse-discrimination" has become commonplace in the name of diversity, it is unfair, divisive, counterproductive, and illegal under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. I'm not accusing you of making this argument, but the assumption that a particular e…

The issue is the statistics show fairly consistently that the playing field starts non-level, at multiple points.

https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2020-06-24...

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Because the argument has validity. If Israel weren't Jewish, nobody would care about it. You can go line by line describing Israel and its so-called "atrocities" and I'll show you countries that are far more appropriately accused of those types of atrocities... yet those other countries never make it into the international news cycle. I'm not Jewish. I'm not religious. But the singling out of Israel by political/anti…

China vs the Uighurs and Tibetans? India vs Pakistanis? Pakistan vs Indians? Russia vs Chechnya? Spain vs the Basque people? Canada in the 80s vs native people (we had an article just the other day)? The US vs black people? Plenty of countries get criticised for their treatment of minorities when they do something wrong.

You're making my point. China is literally wiping out the Uighurs. There's no hair-splitting or propagandizing about it. They're committing actual genocide. But besides a few mentions here and there, the international community is doing nothing about it. If it were at all proportional, the stories and condemnation should be in the news every day.

But instead, we see more media coverage in a single day of Israel's counter attacks from rocket fire than we do for a year of Uighur genocide.

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I've met Jews. I didn't get the impression that they have an "insatiable appetite for war and killing". Would you say the Jews I met have an "insatiable appetite for war and killing"?

I have met Jews (Israelis to be more precise), Russians and Americans. All have been very nice people. But I think it could be said about all of them as nations to have to some degree "insatiable appetite for war and killing" considering their recent history. Naturally the Russians would label me a russophobe for saying that. Not sure what Americans would label me. I also understand the position Israelis are in and I…

Can you name a nation that doesn't have an appetite for war and killing?

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Cancel culture is not about canceling people who say racist, misogynist, homophobic, etc things. It is about canceling (read: disenfranchising and taking revenge on) straight white males, who are at the bottom (top? intersection? whichever) of the intersectional hierarchy. Kamau Bobb is not a white male, therefore this does not apply. He is receiving the same treatment that any powerful person, regardless of skin col…

What? This event seems to match the collectively assigned definition fine. "Cancel culture or call-out culture is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional circles – whether it be online, on social media, or in person. Those subject to this ostracism are said to have been "cancelled". The expression "cancel culture" has mostly negative connotations and is commonly used in deb…

I don't agree with the guy above, but take a look at what Nick Cannon said and how he is still employed.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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Have you people ever met a Jew? They literally idolized "never again" which is what this guy's is talking about. They literally live by the principal that this guy was removed from his position over. And questioning any Jewish philosophy is labeled anti-Semitic and condemned. Write a story about being "God's chosen people" doesn't make you righteous, it just makes you last to do it.

I've met Jews. I didn't get the impression that they have an "insatiable appetite for war and killing". Would you say the Jews I met have an "insatiable appetite for war and killing"?

I’ve met Jews.

I’ve learned to avoid discussing the Israel/Palestine conflict, because often the discussions turn very awkward quickly, and previously reasonable people who appear to have humanist views suddenly don’t sound so reasonable anymore. It’s a complicated subject especially for people connected to the issues.

There are a lot of dark feelings all around the issue, that could get a lot of people fired if they talked about them openly.

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Live by the sword, die by the sword. That said, firing him, like they did with Damore would have been more consistent. Because everyone is under arbitration agreements that always benefit the company, vs the courts where you might have a shot at justice, they have no incentive to do that. As repugnant as his past anti-semitic rant was, people change and sometimes say and do stupid things. In a sane world this guy wou…

I don’t see how his words based on the article were anti Semitic. They were anti Israel. And I find that you and everyone here and at google are having a hard time distinguishing between the two. Further based on the other comment to this post he was quite an activist. Fighting for rights of the racially oppressed and in minority. He went against white people and Israel? He is not racist. He is just anti majority dom…

Jews and Israelis are obviously not the same thing (even though the connection between them is very strong) but the reason you are not allowed to criticise _Israel_ in the US is that _Jews_ have a great amount of power there (hugely disproportionate to their population size).

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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He specifically stated "if I were a Jew", not "if I were a Zionist". That makes it explicitly anti-semitism. You'd think that the global head of diversity would know the difference between Jews and Zionist.

> You'd think that the global head of diversity would know the difference between Jews and Zionist. AFAIK, he wasn't “global head of diversity” for any organization when he wrote it, but only many years later. That’s not to say that being able to distinguish between Jews, Zionists, Israelis, and the Israeli government isn’t basic threshold knowledge that should be expected of anyone publicly commenting on Israeli pol…

>AFAIK, he wasn't “global head of diversity” for any organization when he wrote it, but only many years later.

He was literally a founding senior director for "equity in computing" at Georgia Tech and was a national strategy advisor to the Obama administration for bringing "equity and justice" to STEM (when he wrote this blog post).

Please update your post as you're spreading FUD.

>AFAIK, he wasn't “global head of diversity” for any organization when he wrote it, but only many years later.

He's been a DEI grifter for over a decade, including when he originally wrote his anti-semitic post.

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