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Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by raztogt21 » Wed, May 05, 2021, 7:28 PM UTC

akarma wrote: post #486

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Did you miss the part where she gas-lit him? She agreed with all the points about moissanite/etc and then got bent out of shape when he took her at her word. Clearly all that was a "test" that he was supposed to "pass". I rarely see happy marriages with that kind of behavior as a baseline. God forbid he get her Carnations and a nice dinner for Valentine's day, she'll likely ignore the dinner and focus on why he didn'…

I didn't view it as gaslighting, I viewed it in the way I said it: she may have not wanted to demand a 'genuine' diamond, so she left it open-ended. What woman wants to demand that when asked for preference? Demanding it would remove the sincerity and meaningfulness of the man's gesture. On the note of carnations for Valentine's Day, I'd view it in much the same way. Unless she's told you how much she adores and pref…

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Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by akarma » Wed, May 05, 2021, 8:32 PM UTC

raztogt21 wrote: post #681

akarma wrote: post #486

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I didn't view it as gaslighting, I viewed it in the way I said it: she may have not wanted to demand a 'genuine' diamond, so she left it open-ended. What woman wants to demand that when asked for preference? Demanding it would remove the sincerity and meaningfulness of the man's gesture. On the note of carnations for Valentine's Day, I'd view it in much the same way. Unless she's told you how much she adores and pref…

Do you have a newsletter? You seem knowledgeable.

That's really kind of you and has made my day! I've been thinking about one but haven't found the time; this definitely nudges me towards that so thank you.

If you ever want to chat about something though, feel free to reach me at the email in my profile. Always great to meet new people, especially in these times. :)

Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by washadjeffmad » Wed, May 05, 2021, 9:46 PM UTC

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I went through this not that many years ago buying a ring for my SO. My biggest mistake was including her in the decision. She described what she wanted exactly– nothing gaudy or ostentatious, just a singular, tasteful stone on a plain band. Couldn't be simpler, could it? Finding stones that met her criteria was easy. Some were natural diamonds, some lab grown, many moissanite. From the outset, she said the meaning o…

>When I showed her what I'd picked out, it quickly devolved into a lot of uncharacteristic tears and shouting. It took a few more tries, and then she explained. Apparently a lab grown diamond meant my love for her was also artificial, a budgeted ersatz stand-in for the real thing I'm wondering how, if you picked it out, she even knew the diamond was lab grown? Did she start grilling you immediately? Or did she get th…

Funny you noticed. (Natural) diamonds have certificates of authenticity, ostensibly for appraisal and insurance. When I told her I could print one up with the specs is when the arguments started.

Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by tomhoward » Thu, May 06, 2021, 4:00 PM UTC

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It depends on culture. In my country, a gold or silver ring is acceptable.

> a gold or silver ring is acceptable As in not having a ring is 'unacceptable' somehow then?

That's not really what they meant by "acceptable" - just that either of those metals are traditional.

What's "acceptable" depends on the people in the relationship, and what will make each of them happy.

I didn't have a ring when I proposed to my partner as it was a fairly spontaneous decision when we were in a foreign country, and I knew the location of the proposal would matter much more to her than a ring.

But then after we got back we worked together with a jeweller to design a ring, which made sense as she has better design judgment than me, and we weren't doing anything very lavish/expensive, just something tasteful that she would love (for the record it didn't have diamonds, but rather a morganite stone with white gold).

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Post by dec0dedab0de » Thu, May 06, 2021, 4:24 PM UTC

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Take the money and have a nice honeymoon, buy two $5 seashell necklace at the beach. There are so many ways to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars that are way better than investing them into small chunks of metal. Agreed, but I was OK with spending the money, what really bothers me is how worthless diamonds are. Metals have a relatively free market, many uses, and are fungible, so the pricing is more in line with…

The gold in a typical engagement ring is worth something like $50-100. Not sure what you spent, but the same people peddling mined diamonds are also massively up-charging on the band.

I have no problem paying for craftsmanship, artistry, and service. The piece should be worth significantly more than it's raw materials. My problem is when the price of the raw material is being artificially controlled. While I'm sure there are shenanigans going on with all valuable materials, I can't think of any that are as blatantly a scam as diamonds.

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Post by wilsonrocks » Tue, May 11, 2021, 12:28 PM UTC

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Luckily my wife wanted Peridots but I would not have bought diamonds on ethical grounds.

What ethical grounds? Based off an article you read a few years ago about 1 mine in 1 African country that accounts for < 1% of all global diamond supply?

Didn't spot this till now, so you may have gone.

Largely based on articles I read after watching the film Blood Diamond, actually.