Earlier quoted context omitted.
No need to get prickly. But no need to explain again either. It's more common to you and your social circle, apparently, but [citation needed] for "the average" person. You're exposing a lot more about yourself and your lifestyle than you realize, evidently
Oh I'm not prickly, ha -- where ever did you get that idea? I'm touched by your concern for me -- it's quite sweet -- but it's really not necessary. And I'm not at all concerned about "exposing" my lifestyle, what a hoot! Do you have a "citation" for the average person? If not, then I really don't know what you're arguing about.
Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
681–690 of 693 posts
Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
#682Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can think of several interesting and relevant dialogues that could occur, but I also predicted that a viewpoint on this topic not couched in SSC-compatible rationality terms would be rejected and attacked by other HN commenters. Having confirmed that prediction, I’m content not to share any further details about my biasing experiences so as not to offend further, and avoid being emotionally vulnerable to y’all in t…
I think it’s pretty clear that what was being discussed was a freedom of expression issue (as a value not a law). Doesn’t matter now though cause Apple backed down and the dev noted this in his response: “We may not all agree, but I am happy we all still have the freedom to express ourselves today” I think that sums things up well https://www.macrumors.com/2021/01/02/amphetamine-app-store-r...
I’m sad to see this outcome, but it’s kind of you to ensure that I see it again for a fourth time today. Thanks and be well.
Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
#683Earlier quoted context omitted.
Freedom of speech isn't the same as freedom of distribution. There are lots of edgy things that you can say somewhere. You just can't say them everywhere. We can have lots of lively debate about how to draw the boundaries. But we'll get a lot farther if we can move beyond the two-state absolutism of "allowable everywhere" vs. "outright banned with breath-taking severity."
This is still not it. He's not facing a government warrent. Freedom of speech means the government won't/can't prosecute you for what you say. It doesn't have anything to do with how companies or private citizens respond to your words. You're (usually) legally allowed to say you'll fuck my mom but I don't have to bring you over for family dinner. One could contend that apple's refusal to host this app on it's store i…
That is the First Amendment, not freedom of speech.
One is law, the other is a principle.
Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
#684You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.
Thank God he didn't listen to you. Don't give up! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25618245.
Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
#685Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another comment in this thread said the same thing, and someone replied saying "but I take meth to function (desoxyn)".
The quote was "I use methamphetamine (desoxyn) to function!"
The exclamation point was in the original. I quoted it because "meth" is a slang term, but methamphetamine isn't
Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
#686Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're creating a strawman argument. Imagine it were called heroin, and the app logo used a picture of a syringe.. is it still okay to you because there is no heroin in the app?
Of course it is. I'd be interested in hearing your argument as to why it isn't? Speaking of a straw man argument - heroin isn't a legal drug anywhere in the United states. Like the author pointed out, millions of Americans take legal amphetamines every year, I'd wager a bet that legal users of amphetamines outnumber the illegal users 10,000 to 1 or ever more. But all of that is irrelevant - the app doesn't promote th…
I dunno, before I try a drug I usually scan the app store to see whether it's okay! heavy sarcasm
Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
#687You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.
Ah, I remember this infamous Apple ad: Here’s to the lazy ones, the mundane, the conformers, the rule-followers, the square pegs in the square holes… the ones who don't see things differently — they’re fond of rules… You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, you can also safely ignore them because they dare not change things… they keep the human race stagnant, and while some may see them as the…
If there was HN Gold, I would have given you some
Sounds like the Ray Ozzie motto
Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
#688You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.
Ah, I remember this infamous Apple ad: Here’s to the lazy ones, the mundane, the conformers, the rule-followers, the square pegs in the square holes… the ones who don't see things differently — they’re fond of rules… You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, you can also safely ignore them because they dare not change things… they keep the human race stagnant, and while some may see them as the…
When I walk into the latest iteration of the Apple stores, the ones with those giant LED jumbotrons, I wonder whose job it is these days to throw the sledgehammer at the giant propaganda screen.
This, too, shall pass.
Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
#689Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not op, but no; the app has nothing to do with drugs. I don't think we as a society should be this sensitive/prone to suggestion. If anything, I believe the censorship promotes the idea that people have no responsibility to make their own choices, and we must build to the lowest common denominator. Note, I'm not really making a judgement about whether Apple should be allowed to do this - I think that is harder questi…
It’s named after a drug that inhibits sleep, and it inhibits sleep. The connection is pretty clear...
The drug doesn't inhibit sleep, that would be caffeine. If you can't even get this right then smh.
Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
#690Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, because at a retail store the expectation is that if I see a box labeled "amphetamine" it better contain actual amphetamine. Obviously that's not acceptable, so it's not going to happen. When I buy software, I certainly don't expect to get drugs. When I buy a game called "Surgeon Simulator" I don't expect to receive actual surgeon training any more than I expect to get amphetamine after getting an app called amph…
You're creating a strawman argument. Imagine it were called heroin, and the app logo used a picture of a syringe.. is it still okay to you because there is no heroin in the app?
Do you truly believe that someone is going to see the word "heroin" next to a syringe and say "you know what, I should go shoot up some black tar?"