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Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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There isn’t just one app, there are plenty. Excel and adobe cs are the obvious ones. If you’re not in programming (exclusively) you’re stuck on Windows or Mac.

Office365 takes care of Excell and Outlook and most everything MS. You can get very far with Gimp and or Inkscape. I'm going to suggest that the majority of Adobe users will get by just fine with Gimp.

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Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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There isn’t just one app, there are plenty. Excel and adobe cs are the obvious ones. If you’re not in programming (exclusively) you’re stuck on Windows or Mac.

Office365 takes care of Excell and Outlook and most everything MS. You can get very far with Gimp and or Inkscape. I'm going to suggest that the majority of Adobe users will get by just fine with Gimp.

> You can get very far with Gimp and or Inkscape.

> I'm going to suggest that the majority of Adobe users will get by just fine with Gimp.

Well, frankly, your suggestion is useless. Not even the maintainers of gimp have the temerity to suggest that Gimp is a suitable replacement for Adobe photoshop. I don't care about the "users" of Adobe that pirate it. The tools are expensive and people pay for it. The majority of people that pay for Adobe Photoshop have very good reasons for doing so.

You are clueless if you think Gimp can replace Photoshop. You can do a little research to see why, it's well documented. Morons have been suggesting Gimp as a PS replacement since the late 90s and there is now nearly 20 years of responses for why that is untenable.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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> Nobody has tested it recently Whatever worked is highly unlikely to stop working. You can expect better support than in past test. > What does 'Gold' mean? https://wiki.winehq.org/AppDB_Rating_Definitions

Whatever worked is highly unlikely to stop working. New to software development, are we? That is such a laughably bad assumption that I’ll assume what I think you meant to say is not really what you meant to say. But I’m glad to know that editing slides works just fine in Excel. From the link, “Gold” means: “Works as well as (or better than) on Windows with workarounds.” The test results say online login crashes. Tha…

It's not a certification program. It's just reporting system.

And yes, it is what I meant. For software like wine, if something works in version X, you can expect it will work in X+1. Sure, there will always be some regression from time to time, but wine's whole existence is based on the idea that they support Window's APIs. These are not random features they'll decide to remove from time to time.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Windows 10 is an absolute clusterfuck in video walls/advertising screens/embedded or anything of the sort. Watch windows 10 try to force an update during a live streamed esports match https://clips.twitch.tv/BadPlumpStarLitFam

This one is not as great as a mandatory restart during the 3D model rendering process - https://twitter.com/fillbeforeshill/status/10753514204073328...

Wtf was that plot twist at the end though?

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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> but I don't think it's even possible to merge your iCloud account (Apple ID) with your Mac user account. Aren't these always separate identities And enforced as such - just like you cannot have your macOS password be the same as your Apple ID password.

> just like you cannot have your macOS password be the same as your Apple ID password. Huh, yes you can? http://osxdaily.com/2015/03/24/use-icloud-password-as-mac-lo...

That's not exactly discoverable. Try a clean install of a Mac without having previously enabled this feature. You are prompted for your Apple ID and password, then to make a Mac account. If you use the same password for both, the OS won't let you.

I didn't know you could later enable it.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Have you ever used a Mac?

Mac App Store definitely requires Apple ID.

Of course but you can still - at least for now, install applications from disk images (.dmg) and toss .app containers into /Applications - that doesn't require Apple ID.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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The irony is that you can still buy just a good screen with good connectivity options and basic controls, but the market is advertised as "display screens" intended for things like advertising or video walls. I don't understand why the same manufacturers/distributors offering these products don't also pitch them as TVs with well-defined specs and no junk, probably with some sort of "expert"/"pro" branding that makes…

Because only two manufacturers make large OLED screens and maybe three make advanced LED screens and they are all massive conglomerates that control the market.

I suppose my implied question here is why control the market in that way even if they do have the practical ability to do so? If there is a market for simple, good quality products and people willing to pay a fair price for them, why would you exclude it, particularly in favour of a market where more of your revenue comes from dubious sources that could backfire in terms of PR and/or be less reliable in terms of future potential earnings?

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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And for small businesses, the analogous barrier is often "creative software". More and more administrative services used by businesses are moving online, and in some cases we're forced to use them whether we like it or not (for example, because certain tax/legal returns now have to be filed online using approved software). However, when it comes to creating reports, or artwork, or engineering schematics for a new bui…

Simply: Excel. The sheer intertia in businesses of all sizes using Excel will probably never completely go away. It will fade out over decades. And proper excel (excel 2007!!!) is not on Mac OS , Linux or in the cloud.

The significance of Excel in large corporate environments is definitely underestimated by a lot of people who evangelise other platforms and software like LibreOffice as viable alternatives.

On the other hand, IME this is more of an enterprise-scale thing. Smaller businesses tend to be less firmly tied to existing software packages, and do less heavily customised work with Excel specifically, so there's likely to be less of a barrier for them to migrate.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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They're forcing people to online accounts by putting the offline option in the basement, it's the standard 'nudge' in software. Eventually they'll eliminate it completely. Some would consider this one a dark pattern, I would agree in this case.

Except maybe in a “home edition” that can’t eliminate it completely. Businesses will flip their shit if employees needed an MS account. It would mean the death of Windows.

> Businesses will flip their shit if employees needed an MS account.

Not necessarily. Remember that Windows is an Azure product now. They want employees in the cloud paying for Office 365 anyway.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Mac App Store definitely requires Apple ID.

Of course but you can still - at least for now, install applications from disk images (.dmg) and toss .app containers into /Applications - that doesn't require Apple ID.

Not all applications.

For example, if I need Wireguard VPN client, I must install it from App Store. It is otherwise open-source app, but without the signature from App Store, it won't work.

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