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I use 3 Windows computers and use Chrome Firefox and Edge on all three computers. My experience is that Edge is less stable than Chrome which surprised me at first since Edge is owned by the host OS having all the advantages of access to all the private code.
You can throw all the money and resources in the world, and something like a browser is too complex to quickly catch up.
In the 2+ year timeframe, this will save independent SaaS and software vendors MASSIVE amounts of time and money. Thank you, Satya Nadella.
Hopefully this will resolve the Web Extension store headaches induced by having to distribute through the Microsoft Store.
I suppose those of us who sell to large organizations will still have to support IE11 and Edge for the foreseeable future. Or maybe MS could help us all out by pushing an update to put Rick Astley on the default home page for those browsers, as an encouragement to upgrade.
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> This will be especially true when Firefox inevitably shutters it's in-house efforts in a couple of years due to the amount of sites that won't work with it, and starts using Chromium too. It seems very unlikely: - Mozilla has been in a far worse uderdog position before during the IE6 era, with way more incompatible sites and less funding. - Mozilla is not for profit. Fighting for the open Web is one of their goal.…
>Firefox is now a fast, lean and fantastic browser again. This is not my experience. On my MacBook Pro it is slow and tends to cause system lockups on a regular basis. Everytime there is a new announcement about how the new Firefox has improved performance and stability I give it a try and each time am disappointed. On my phone the Firefox browser is almost unusably slow and slow enough that it can't replace Chrome.…
I don’t know what you’re doing, but I’ve never had a lockup in that entire time (and I run Beta), as far as I can tell, it is the fastest of all my options.
The very last thing that I notice any difference on is energy usage, for which Safari is still king. I don’t use Firefox on my iPhone, as there’s not much point (I wish Apple would change their restriction here).
From the article: > In addition, Microsoft engineers were recently spotted committing code to the Chromium project to help get Google Chrome running on ARM. Unless I'm completely misunderstanding something, Chromium already runs on ARM SoCs. Raspbian even ships with it as the default browser. Also, as to Edge and stability, I don't use Windows 10 for any serious work anymore in light of the recent update gaffes[1], b…
AIUI, Chromium didn't run on WinNT/ARM64.
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It doesn't matter how pushy or honest is google. Users have to go out of their way to use chrome instead of the default browsers and they still do. And I haven't heard anyone saying "I'd rather use Edge or IE but site xxx only works on Chrome".
> It doesn't matter how pushy or honest is google. Users have to go out of their way to use chrome instead of the default browsers and they still do. Not entirely true. Chrome as been bundled with other popular software for significant time. Also saying someone has to go out of their way to install it when it is advertised on the front of Google.com isn't my definition of "out of their way".
You just can't admit that Chrome does have its merits for some non-logical reason...
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Safari is leaving itself in the dirt. It's the new IE with slow, quirky, and unreliable features. They made some advancements in privacy, but so did Firefox without giving up on actual rendering and standards.
> unreliable standards I presume you mean that Safari doesn’t support experimental standards that Chrome is pushing because they align with Google’s businesses strategy. This is exactly the problem with a browser monoculture. If we’re not lucky Google will be the new Microsoft.
But worst of all, it seems like Apple just doesn't care. Bug reports don't seem to be read at all, while when reporting an issue for Chrome you usually get a reply within 24 hours.
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More than usable. For the majority of users I'd say it is a better option, not as resource-hungry as Chrome or chromium based browsers.
And, while I'm not a hard-core JS programmer, I've found Safari's dev tools to be just as good as Firefox's or Chrome's.
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No, I tell my friends and family to use Firefox. There is more than one decent browser out there. I don't like the idea of everything using the Chromium engine; monoculture _is_ bad and we shouldn't put our eggs in the one basket. That said, IE and Edge have historically been terrible both compatibility and performance-wise. It's not just websites that aren't tested in Edge - my experience with Edge is that all aspec…
I recently made the switch to Firefox from chrome. Webrender is a revolution in web technology since it primarily uses the GPU for rendering resulting in much faster and smoother websites. I'd urge everyone to give webrender a shot, it feels noticeably smoother than chrome.
Disclosure: I work for Mozilla but not on webrender.
What other options do they have? Even on HN you hear "I use Egde to download Chrome". Many of you here don't test your own work in Edge. At the same time Microsoft is getting the heat that Windows 10 is unstable and the last major update shows that it is. Very urgently, I imagine, Microsoft is trying to change the perception of Windows 10 by doing everything they can to make it more stable. Changing the browser engin…
The net effect is that, stuff that Google tries to pull (like auto logging in accounts in Chrome based on your gmail) will still be negative for Google and still cause people to switch; because you have options. On the other hand, devs can expect code behavior to match more closely now even in MS Anaheim because its underlying rendering engine is now the same as Chrome. It's not monoculture of product choice, it's monoculture of underlying rendering engine, which seems like a good thing to me.
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How do you test Safari without an Apple device?
(Hint: you don't) I'm a web developer with an Android smartphone and Ubuntu as my main OS, Windows as my secondary. My primary means of testing on iOS/Safari is to be very careful about which features I target by checking caniuse.com and the JS compatibility list. And that doesn't protect you against iOS randomly doing something stupid like pretending to give you access to localStorage in private browsing mode but ac…