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Why are you asking me? What about my comment, or its grand-parent comment makes you ask me that?
Replied at wrong level. I am going to leave it. No pressure.
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I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back
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Re: I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back
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From a security point of view, it's really worrying that a lot of users refuse to upgrade software because of the track record of Apple making devices less usable with every upgrade. I prefer the method of Samsung in this case, they clearly state for the monthly update that it is mostly a security update. Where Apple seems to apply marketing by promising 'the best experience yet' and shiny new features with each majo…
> From a security point of view, it's really worrying that a lot of users refuse to upgrade software because of the track record of Apple making devices less usable with every upgrade. A lot of users? iOS has the fastest and widest adoption rate for new releases of any mobile or not OS. Android specifically used to have awful fragmentation issues and phones never updated by the vendor 3 and 4 releases behind. APPLE I…
Part of the reason Apple has such high update numbers is due to the dark pattern of presenting "enter your passcode to update tonight" (when you select "later" instead of "install now" on an update alert) in the exact same style as the normal passcode entry screen. I'm sure a significant number of people have inadvertently updated their device through that method.
Re: I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back
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Why are you sitting on your phone, in the first place?
While I'm not the most careful person in the world, I'm also not the most incautious; I think it's probably not an uncommon experience for people who do regularly ride trains--e.g. those of us living in big cities where you commute by train instead of your car--that you sit and you realize you're sitting on your coat in an odd way that's got your phone in the pocket underneath you where you're sitting. I mean, at som…
That's weird, it took me half a year (commuting daily) to go from "carrying phone in jeans' back pocket is practical" to "I have to take out phone from the pocket _every time_ before I sit". No problems ever since. But I guess I learn fast ... Unless it's setting up some wireless crap.
Re: I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back
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> I can understand and feel your fathers frustration trying to use wireless headphones, on the other side if they never ever get rid of the headphone jack then users are going to end up never getting trained on how to use wireless headphones. But why do you want to get rid of the headphone jack? For iPhone, this is a direct downgrade, loss of very useful functionality. That's why people are complaining; while compani…
> But why do you want to get rid of the headphone jack? For iPhone, this is a direct downgrade, loss of very useful functionality. That's why people are complaining; while companies seem to like trading utility for fashion all the time, this case was unprecedently blatant. I'd say that in order to get rid of cabled headphones at some point in time, you have to start somewhere. I do think that wirless headphones is th…
> I do think that wirless headphones is the future and that headphones with a cable will cease to exist in a few years.
This is completely ridiculous. Latency issues are not cheap to solve without cable, and watching movies or any video / playing games just can't handle latency. Congestion problems in public transport are frequently mentioned in these HN threads already, and we are nowhere close to "fully wireless world".
I hope phone makers are not this delusional ... They already jumped the shark with phone sizes, it will be getting ridiculous trying to keep alive 6y ild phone just to not downgrade :/
Re: I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back
#685We need to take into account _Accessibility_. A large use case that I've found most people seems to miss are individuals who are older and don't have much experience with bluetooth or wireless technology. I'm fine with Apple removing the headphone jack, but they've alienated so many people to find their own path when they don't include the adapter. Anecdotal example: I recently purchased headphones for my 65-year old…
Elderly? I can guarantee that no human being on earth can confidently setup bluetooth on all devices. And that's the issue, these one-off pairings. I had a friend sync with my car bluetooth-stereo, it took a while and from the steering wheel I couldn't be of enough help. But it worked in the end, was quite frustrating though. Then later when I tried to use my phone again it had been lost from the receiver (eventhough…
If you think that's bad I'd like to introduce you to the hell of pairing garage remote receivers to your car's honelink enabled rearview mirror.
Don't get me started on the cryptic pairing manual in the glove compartment.
Re: I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back
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It's no coincidence that you never see anybody with a visible disability in any general purpose Apple advertisement -- video or print. Or an overweight person, for that matter.
You mean the same Apple that got a Louis Braille award[1] for their work in accessibility for the blind and visually impaired, that Apple ? 1. https://appleinsider.com/articles/17/01/27/apple-honored-wit...
I never referred to functionality; I was pointing out the image that Apple wants to convey in its advertising.
Re: I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back
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It's no coincidence that you never see anybody with a visible disability in any general purpose Apple advertisement -- video or print. Or an overweight person, for that matter.
You mean this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB4cjbYywqg Or the "Designed for ..." series? Meera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d6zKINudi0 Andrea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoEUsUWihsM Patrick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whioDJ8doYA Todd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PoE9tHg_P0 ?
By "advertising" I was referring to broadcast or print advertising, not special-interest outreach. None of those has been part of their broadcast TV campaigns.
Re: I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back
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>why is that? Are they too old? Latency. When you're making music and interacting with it directly, you can't afford any noticeable latency. When you're passively listening to it, that doesn't really matter. For phone/tablet users the main place this matters is games, due to their interactive nature.
And speaking of latency, technology has broken in another respect here: rhythm games. If I play Dance Dance Revolution from a PS2 on a flatscreen, they add so much lag that the visuals are unusable, even in video game mode. Others have told me they have the same problem even on games for newer consoles intended to played on such TVs. So I end up needing to find a CRT to play them. I also saw this on the Nintendo Wii…
Audio and display lag in rhythm video games is a 100% solvable problem provided:
1. The amount of lag is consistent (check, as long as you're not using Bluetooth)
2. The game is not key-sounded (pass for DDR)
3. You know how much lag there is.
Since rhythm games are deterministic, you can just offset the visuals and audio output to compensate for the delay. Keysounded games are imperfect, but it's rarely an issue unless there's a lot of lag.
The real problem is #3. Without extra, expensive equipment, there's no way to know exactly how much lag there is. It's annoying that the only real problem comes down to an inability to measure.
Re: I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back
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Surely you wouldn't accept "Unless it has a connection failure, your wireless headphones alway just work". Because it's implying it has more reliability than it actually has. And the reality is that wired headphones don't always just work either. I've had heaps of problems with the headphones themselves, and several instances of issues with the jacks.
Apple designs experiences, and your argument (which is a valid one) boils down to your use cases align with Apple's target. Like anything, wireless have pros and cons. The big pro is that it's fully portable and gives you a freedom of movement that is difficult to match. Most of the cons are associated with poor care (corrosion, stuff jammed in there) or poor quality devices (which is a "con" shared with wireless). T…
Don’t forget having to have them charged to use
Re: I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back
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Of course since most of the issues seem to come from things like interaction with cars, and GPS tends to quickly drain battery thus strongly encouraging using a charger, and therefore lack of a headphone jack makes getting audio in the car much more difficult... well, that "as long as you are not charging" is a pretty big negative. And that's ignoring all the various issues Bluetooth has, like some apps (eg Waze) utt…
Is it really common to use headphones in the car, though? The last few cars I've owned, I plugged my phone into the radio with USB and it both charged the phone and played music as well.
Lots of cars don't support transfer of audio via USB but do have an AUX socket.
I think OP was talking about people plugging between the headphone socket of their phone and the AUX input of the car stereo - not wearing headphones in the car.