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Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Post by z3ratul163071 »

vitally3643 wrote: post #406
z3ratul163071 wrote: post #402

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You clearly have never tried to implement sleep on a microcontroller. It has nothing at all to do with ACPI. And this kind of eldritch bug is par for the course. It has nothing at all to do with Microsoft or PCs at all. Microcontroller sleep just sucks in a lot of incredibly weird ways.

did not, you are right. however, i don't think it should be an issue:

- get trigger for sleep - save state to nvram - ack sleep - wake up the same way as normal power-up, state being already in nvram

if this simple protocol is not working in your scenario, you have a uc larping as cpu doing way too much.

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Post by ActorNightly »

oaiey wrote: post #411
ActorNightly wrote: post #398

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>that's a VM running Linux on Windows While thats true, its not what you think it is. WSL1 was VM in a traditional sense, it ran under windows. When you install WSL2, it basically changes your computer core OS to be a bare metal hypervisor (specialized version of Hyper V). Its the same concept as any cloud provider letting people provision VMs that run at native performance on the actual hardware. So WLS2 can talk to…

WSL 1 was not a VM in a traditional sense. WSL 1 was a Windows subsystem which translated Linux syscalls into NT syscalls (e.g. file open). NT has capabilities there from its origins in the 90s supporting in theory user spaces for posix/os2/...

Syscall translation is pretty much what userland vm software does.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Post by welzel »

Compare the UX of any Macbook with the most cutting edge “overpowered” Windows Machine and you get the same shitty experience we have since forever:

The UI is sometimes laggy, buggy and simply sucks.

Fresh installation of Windows 11 on a 2026 high-end machine: you open a File Explorer for local SSD and there is a delay in the UI. Oh, and of course, the UI is more ad invested then a cheap p0rn page from russia. WTF Microsoft?

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Post by int_19h »

musicale wrote: post #650
OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #588

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Are you able to play Steam games?

You can play 64-bit macOS Steam games using ... Steam for macOS. This works fine (at least until they kill Rosetta2), though you are still translating x86. And most Windows Steam games (32- or 64-bit) via Crossover. (Expect about half the frame rate of a native ARM/Metal port at the same settings.) But you may be asking whether you can run Proton well in a Linux VM. I think it would depend on having a good Vulkan imp…

> You can play 64-bit macOS Steam games using ... Steam for macOS

Assuming they are kept updated. Unfortunately, the way macOS works is that Apple expects developers to constantly update their apps to keep them working on newer macOS versions, and for games especially this is often not the case a few years after the release.

Worse yet, many titles are marked as working, but if you actually try to use them, various things break, e.g. hi-DPI.

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Post by int_19h »

tw04 wrote: post #331
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WSL is inside Windows. I haven't found the need for anything like this on macOS, as it's Unix and I can just install stuff with Homebrew. When the Unix version of some package didn't do what something else I was running expected, I was able to install coreutils in just a few seconds and carry on. It seems the issue on Apple hardware is the fight to get Linux booting on bare metal with full support (what Apple supplie…

WSL provides a seamless filesystem experience between windows and Linux which is more than I can say for MacOS. And it’s supported by MS, not a community add-on. People downvoting me because Microsoft are just silly. It is literally undeniable that Microsoft has done more to provide Linux support in the windows ecosystem than Apple has with MacOS. The closest thing Apple has done to “support” Linux is add a hyperviso…

I wouldn't call it seamless. Zero-configuration, yes, but performance issues make it impossible to do many things across the FS boundary in practice.

I run Linux in Lima VMs regularly on macOS for development, and I find that it works very well in practice despite not being first-party.

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Post by int_19h »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #522
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Which doesn’t make it Linux, which is what op wants. It’s based on a BSD-based mach kernel. You might as well say someone asking for Linux should just run Irix, because hey, it’s UNIX!

well it's a hell of a lot closer than wsl

WSL is literally the Linux kernel running in a VM, so WSL is actually closer.

But you can have a Linux kernel running in a VM on macOS as well, and while it doesn't have something like WSL built-in, it provides enough foundation for others to build it: https://lima-vm.io/docs/

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Post by zamadatix »

elxr wrote: post #631
zamadatix wrote: post #576

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It's a bit of column A and a bit of column B. Of laptops I'd like to run Windows on, I'd definitely choose the latest MacBook. Of reasons I don't run Windows on all of my desktop hardware, it's mostly because it's loaded with bullshit.

> the latest MacBook Which one? Outside the macbook pro 16, almost every other macbook has pretty reasonable competition now. At least hardware wise, and excluding the raw single-thread performance of the SoC. On the windows laptop side, the zephyrus g14 and g16 (among others) are honestly just as nice as what Apple sells on the high-end. And better in certain ways, like the keyboards.

Yes, I have the MacBook Pro 16. I'd probably get an Air over a Zephyrus unless I was into gaming (where x86 and the standard GPU APIs help a lot) though.

I do also have one of those AMD 395 laptops, and I like it for what it is, but I still wouldn't call it as comparable even though it takes a similar architecture to the Apple Silicon devices. Much better than a "normal" laptop for trying to reach that claim though.

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Post by gambiting »

joncrocks wrote: post #537
vel0city wrote: post #416

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It's probably a particular device that's causing it to wake. Check out using sleepstudy. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/de...

You can also use `powercfg /requests` (in Admin mode) to see if something is actively preventing shutdown. Sometimes it can be software + HW combos.

Ha, whenever my laptop would wake up, that command would only show:

"Wake up triggered by: unknown"

It was supremely unhelpful

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Post by ramesh31 »

newtonianrules wrote: post #186
ramesh31 wrote: post #74

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>For many, the appeal of a Mac is that it isn't running Windows Pretty much. I broke down and finally bought my first Windows machine in over a decade to play Subnautica 2. It was so infuriating to use I returned it a week later. You literally have to hack it with shell commands to bypass Microsoft login now. Never again.

Subnautica 2 runs great on Linux via Steam/Proton. My HTPC/Steam Machine and gaming rig are both running Linux now. ;)

Thank you!

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Post by strobe »

hoistbypetard wrote: post #663
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The MacBook Neo has modular ports. The rest of them don't. They may introduce them more widely in the next redesign but that remains to be seen.

The piece I linked, along with the parts for sale in the iFixIt shop seem to contradict your assertion. The piece says: "The Neo has the same modular bits and bobs we’ve applauded in recent MacBook designs. The USB-C ports are modular, so a damaged charge port doesn’t turn into logic board work."

good that they improving but I have one 2019 macbook died because of that issue, probably my M1 also could die because of that.
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