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Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by jeroenhd »

jim33442 wrote: post #318
jeroenhd wrote: post #22

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You can't rename most Bluetooth speakers. "Bomb" was the name the selling brand gave the speaker. By making everyone turn off their Bluetooth, the kid whose speaker had turned on probably couldn't even see the device broadcasting the name. People linked to one by a company made Hellotec but Hama has a similarly named device, and plenty of other speaker manufacturers try to make a pun out of "boombox" by naming their…

Rename is a fairly common feature on Bluetooth speakers and headphones, for example my Bose NC-700.

I own zero Bluetooth audio devices with rename functionality. I don't think it's common at all. Especially in the "cheap, obnoxious Bluetooth speaker" category.

My phone will show me a different name for a "renamed on phone" Bluetooth device, but all other devices in the area won't.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by ap99 »

atoav wrote: post #655
Barbing wrote: post #537

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I think if the captain doesn’t like you, what they say goes & it’s a federal matter. I think the reason for the captain not liking you is secondary and could get him fired but it’s still: mess around in federal airspace, deal with the feds. Follow all instructions of all flight crew or you’re a criminal, regardless (I think). Not actually the FBI though is it? Captain probably wanted to sound serious (mission accompl…

So what you're saying is if the captain doesn't like you because you're Zionist they can remove you?

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Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by cs02rm0 »

Isn't this terror-ists winning? When people give in to terror?

When we had the IRA active in the UK everyone would be proud to carry on as normal after any incident, to show that life would go on as normal despite their efforts. This doesn't seem normal.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by K0balt »

layer8 wrote: post #663
elliotec wrote: post #546

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Renaming a Bluetooth device like a speaker permanently for everyone (as opposed to a nickname you give it in your phone or whatever) is difficult if possible at all and usually requires firmware or hardware changes, unless the option is given by the device or its companion app (which is very rare). So your assumption seems the most likely. I highly doubt a 16 year old kid is firmware hacking a cheap speaker just to r…

It’s commonplace for Bluetooth speakers to allow changing their Wi-Fi name (SSID) using the related app. Everyone being able to identify each other’s Bluetooth speakers is exactly one purpose of that.

Bluetooth speakers don’t typically have WiFi or SSIDs. The Bluetooth advertising name is changeable on some newer higher end devices, but the vast majority of cheap speakers do not implement this from a practical standpoint. Changing the name on your device only changes the alias that you see, at least on most devices, but it might be possible to hook that on some OSs ?

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by jeroenhd »

thrownthatway wrote: post #159
jeroenhd wrote: post #22

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You can't rename most Bluetooth speakers. "Bomb" was the name the selling brand gave the speaker. By making everyone turn off their Bluetooth, the kid whose speaker had turned on probably couldn't even see the device broadcasting the name. People linked to one by a company made Hellotec but Hama has a similarly named device, and plenty of other speaker manufacturers try to make a pun out of "boombox" by naming their…

When you rename a Bluetooth device from your phone, does that affect the name it broadcasts, or only the label applied in the list of Bluetooth devices in the phone? I know for certain if you change the setting General > About > Name in an iPhone it changes what everyone sees when they look at their list of available Bluetooth devices. I assume other Bluetooth devices are the same, no? Otherwise how do you distinguis…

Some devices come with apps that include proprietary renaming features. Those devices can be renamed.

Your iPhone's rename feature won't change anything for other devices. Maybe Apple is smart enough to sync the renamed device to other Apple devices as well, I don't know about that, but it certainly won't change what the other passengers on your phone see.

You can distinguish Bluetooth devices by their MAC address, that's usually how the rename mapping works.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by ChocolateGod »

joxdosba wrote: post #601
pdonis wrote: post #492

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> This is clearly not a threat. To you, who made up the scenario and specified that it's not a threat, sure, it seems that way. To the pilot of an airplane full of people whose safety he is responsible for, even a tiny probability that it might be a threat has to be paid attention to. In real life you don't get to specify what "clearly" is or is not the case. People have to make judgment calls, and in certain context…

There’s no way a reasonable person would interpret that as a threat, it feels like you’re playing silly games trying to widen the Overton window by sanewashing an obviously unreasonable reaction.

A lot of people swap jew for zionist or israel to cover up their antisemitism, so yes "fuck jews" could be interpreted as a threat.

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Post by blablabla123 »

neilv wrote: post #178

I once consulted on some aviation-related software (not the safety work prominent on my resume), and a company announcement came through, that you must never use a few specific words commonly heard in software development. The two no-no words I recall were "crash" and "bomb". Don't write them in code or documents, don't say them on the phone or videoconf, etc. Those terms have senses that people in aviation take extr…

I used to work with a small Aviation-related software company. There it was really not like this, the boss made jokes about it. On the other hand engineering-wise things were done really differently: no branches, fail fast, only e2e tests etc. Probably the rift between small companies and corporate culture also applies here.

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Post by gpt5 »

stef25 wrote: post #659
godelski wrote: post #379

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> This is trying to sanewash totally insane levels of risk aversion. To add more credence to your point, let's not forget this beautiful line in TFA | During this incident, a Wi-Fi hotspot named "Free Palestine, F Zionists" prompted the pilot to issue a warning to the cabin, telling the passenger responsible that they had "30 seconds" to remove the name or the FBI would meet the aircraft. This is clearly not a threat…

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> a plane half full of Hasidic Jews (the ones refusing to board because they're still praying and knocking their head against the wall, and refuse to sit next to women).

I don't know why you've decided to explain what is a Hasidic jew in that way (or at all). However I hope you can at least understand in retrospect why describing a religious group as people who all follow some negative behavior is promoting hate towards all members of that group, regardless of their actions.

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Post by grodriguez100 »

Geof25 wrote: post #392
f_allwein wrote: post #383

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Also, who carries a Bluetooth speaker on a plane? And for what purpose?

Speaker in carry on luggage to be used in vacation. They were flying to Malaga

Not Malaga according to the article — destination was Palma de Mallorca.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by throw1234567891 »

steve1977 wrote: post #596
godelski wrote: post #591

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So what's your argument? We all act crazy because crazy people might exist? That's just as crazy as being afraid of terrorists. Why would you let the crazy people run the world. If they're that crazy you put them in a hospital because clearly they need help

The argument is that if I'm responsible for the safety of a very heterogenous group of people in the cabin of my airplane, I will assume that those people are already stressed and will probably act even less rational than they normally would. And that's all that matters in that moment. > If they're that crazy you put them in a hospital because clearly they need help Oh believe me, I would if I could...

Define crazy. Because you sound crazy to me. The point of view depends on where you sit. Some other people maybe want to put you in prison, for your „craziness“. Care for what you wish.
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