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Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by cess11 »

idan wrote: post #96
mitchellh wrote: post #26

I know this is ridiculously dramatic, but its the truth: I actually cried writing this blog post (tears hit my keyboard, I'm embarrassed to say). Nobody should cry over a SaaS, of all things. But GitHub has meant so much more to me than that (all laid out in the post). I have an unhealthy relationship with it. Its given me so much and I'm so thankful for it. But, it's not what it used to be. I don't know. We've been…

Hi there! Longtime fan and hubber here. It's okay to have emotions. I have similar emotions. I'm GitHub User 22723 which is effectively the same as you (considering there's ~180m GH accounts nowadays) My version of your post reads differently: "GitHub only gets better if people who give a shit stick around to make it better" Walking away would be easy. I felt that way when I left Heroku ~six years ago. I left that jo…

"GitHub only gets better if people who give a shit stick around to make it better"

This only works in democratic settings. In capitalist corporations, typical liberalist parliamentarism and so on it does not work, only coercion does, which might be peaceful, like a strike or boycott, or it might not be.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by efrecon »

BTBurke wrote: post #562
dannyfritz07 wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have had my eye on these technologies for a while. Embedding the issue tracker and such in your git repo. Every day these make more and more sense. - https://gitsocial.org/ - https://radicle.dev/ - https://github.com/git-bug/git-bug

I made the decision to leave Github a couple months ago when I retired and started heavily working on personal projects. I like the idea of radicle and used it for a while, but it's complicated to set up and maintain if you want to run your own seed node and pin your personal projects. What I ended up with is a version of a static forge - Charm's soft-serve to host the repos and a forked version of the pico.sh pgit s…

Indeed really quick and responsive

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by CjHuber »

ahf8Aithaex7Nai wrote: post #629

The thing you love has been bought by Microsoft. When things belong to a large corporation, they can (and probably will) drift off in some absurd direction, because in a way, the relationship is reversed. The thing no longer serves you; instead, the brand, the user base, the reputation, and the key role and function of the thing are put at the service of investors. In this process, you are demoted from subject to obj…

Are you… explaining the effects of being acquired to Hashimoto?

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by thom »

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #421
tedivm wrote: post #8

It really has been remarkable watching GitHub just crumble as an organization. There's a lot of discussion about why: the switch from being independent to being part of Microsoft, having resources pushed to Copilot instead of core service, the organization structure itself, a reliance on vibe coding, etc etc. Regardless of the reason, it's undeniable that GitHub is facing some serious issues. The unofficial status pa…

All of that is revisionist history at best. GitHub was a pile a shit long before Microsoft bought it has everyone forgotten when it would be a coin-flip on any given day if the site was even functional? GitHub was in the right place at the right time to be a success despite the fact it's a massively clobbered together mess.

While I wouldn't necessarily phrase it this way, there is a chart going around social media that tries to imply that GitHub had basically 100% uptime right up until the MS acquisition. All it takes is either 1) having been there or 2) a cursory search of HN to know that this is a complete fabrication.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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tedivm wrote: post #8

It really has been remarkable watching GitHub just crumble as an organization. There's a lot of discussion about why: the switch from being independent to being part of Microsoft, having resources pushed to Copilot instead of core service, the organization structure itself, a reliance on vibe coding, etc etc. Regardless of the reason, it's undeniable that GitHub is facing some serious issues. The unofficial status pa…

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Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by jasonkester »

mitchellh wrote: post #26

I know this is ridiculously dramatic, but its the truth: I actually cried writing this blog post (tears hit my keyboard, I'm embarrassed to say). Nobody should cry over a SaaS, of all things. But GitHub has meant so much more to me than that (all laid out in the post). I have an unhealthy relationship with it. Its given me so much and I'm so thankful for it. But, it's not what it used to be. I don't know. We've been…

I hope this doesn’t come across as making fun, but it had never occurred to me that GitHub could be anything more than a tool for hosting my source code. So if you had written this same piece about all the good times you’d had in Windows Explorer, I’d be no less confused.

Can I ask what was there that made you visit the site for anything other than reviewing pull requests and issues?

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by jim33442 »

tedivm wrote: post #8

It really has been remarkable watching GitHub just crumble as an organization. There's a lot of discussion about why: the switch from being independent to being part of Microsoft, having resources pushed to Copilot instead of core service, the organization structure itself, a reliance on vibe coding, etc etc. Regardless of the reason, it's undeniable that GitHub is facing some serious issues. The unofficial status pa…

Have those outages actually been blocking your work? Somehow I haven't even noticed, just seen complaints on HN. I'm not saying it's not real, just wondering where the gap is.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by ncruces »

nvme0n1p1 wrote: post #88
IshKebab wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah if those graphs are even vaguely accurate there's really only one explanation: vibe coders pushing previously unimaginable amount of slop. I would not be surprised if Github has to stop offering so many services for free.

> if those graphs are even vaguely accurate They aren't, of course. The Y axis is missing. GitHub didn't have 0 daily commits at the start of 2023. https://handsondataviz.org/how-to-lie-with-charts.html#exagg...

No, but commits are growing 14x YoY: https://x.com/kdaigle/status/2040164759836778878

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by chapz »

jasonkester wrote: post #676
mitchellh wrote: post #26

I know this is ridiculously dramatic, but its the truth: I actually cried writing this blog post (tears hit my keyboard, I'm embarrassed to say). Nobody should cry over a SaaS, of all things. But GitHub has meant so much more to me than that (all laid out in the post). I have an unhealthy relationship with it. Its given me so much and I'm so thankful for it. But, it's not what it used to be. I don't know. We've been…

I hope this doesn’t come across as making fun, but it had never occurred to me that GitHub could be anything more than a tool for hosting my source code. So if you had written this same piece about all the good times you’d had in Windows Explorer, I’d be no less confused. Can I ask what was there that made you visit the site for anything other than reviewing pull requests and issues?

It's probably not GitHub as such, but the associated memories and experiences. You never miss a place, you miss the feeling of happines you had when you were there, or the people you spent time with there.

People get emotional over a car, over a house, over a pet... you could argue for everything it's just a car/house/pet... you can get a new one.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by ramon156 »

muragekibicho wrote: post #313

OP takes issue with GitHub's constant outages and alludes to agents (and Copilot bloat) as the primary cause. Lots of big services are like this. Google Colab's 'Connect to Drive' is down as we speak. I'm up right now because I know my Runpod VM in Kentucky is going to die rather abruptly and I'll need to manually get it up. Everything has its flaws. Microsoft lets you host your code, websites and media for free and

Even if your analysis was correct (you're hyper-focusing on the AI stuff), "Lots of big services are like this." is not an excuse.
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