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SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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In terms of IDE yeah it is not that great. I do have Copilot in VSCode and Cursor. I thought both should be equal in solving problems - turns out Cursor with the same model selected somehow was able to solve tasks that Copilot would get stuck or run in loops. They have some tricks on managing file access that others don’t.

Cynics on HN easily dismiss AI service wrappers (and many of them are in fact overblown and not worth their own code). But writing a genuinely good harness with lots of context engineering and solid tool integration is in fact not that easy. The biggest issue is that model providers also see what the community likes and often move on with their own offerings that are tailored to their own models, potentially at the t…

Isn't Codex TUI available for free though? Besides others like Pi and OpenCode of course.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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What's crazy is that a company that sells an IDE (that's not even a particularly good one compared to competitors like JetBrains) integrating some AI plugins could be worth more than $60B...

They are now a Codex clone and without the subscription pricing. You have to spend thousands to get what you get from a $200 Codex subscription. How do they compete with this except from users who haven't caught on yet, or businesses that are unbothered to spend thousands a month per dev and wouldn't consider just subscribing to 1-3 $200 subscriptions instead? And their price is so high because it's markup on API rat…

API rates on local models are quite cheap, and you can even run them locally. Yes, the hardware for doing so at speed is expensive, but people used to drop the equivalent of what would be $50k or $100k today on an individual workstation for full-time use. It's justified if the productivity gain is strong enough.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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post #610

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In terms of IDE yeah it is not that great. I do have Copilot in VSCode and Cursor. I thought both should be equal in solving problems - turns out Cursor with the same model selected somehow was able to solve tasks that Copilot would get stuck or run in loops. They have some tricks on managing file access that others don’t.

Sure, but is it worth 60 billion?

Their annualized revenue run rate is on track to surpass $6 billion by the end of 2026 so it's not ridiculous for them to be valued at $60 billion at some point. Also worth noting that if they do get access to SpaceX compute, they could start pretraining their own model. Composer is good but its built on top of Kimi 2.5.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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So SpaceX bought a $60B Option on Cursor, plus a bunch of services, for $10B. If strike date comes and Cursor is in fact worth less than $60B... they can move to acquire it for that price. Or just let it "expire". And if it's worth more, they get a savage good deal. If the services were worth $8B anyway, it's hard to lose. It seems less crazy to me through this lens. A straight acquisition, today, at $60B would in fa…

What's crazy is that a company that sells an IDE (that's not even a particularly good one compared to competitors like JetBrains) integrating some AI plugins could be worth more than $60B...

Because of user count? Same was said about instagram. with all due respect, devs don't seem to understand business

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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So SpaceX bought a $60B Option on Cursor, plus a bunch of services, for $10B. If strike date comes and Cursor is in fact worth less than $60B... they can move to acquire it for that price. Or just let it "expire". And if it's worth more, they get a savage good deal. If the services were worth $8B anyway, it's hard to lose. It seems less crazy to me through this lens. A straight acquisition, today, at $60B would in fa…

Despite their impressive ARR, Cursor faces existential threat from not only BigLabs (Claude Code, Open AI Codex) but also BigTech (AWS Kiro, Google Antigravity, MS VSCode). I am sure the usual suspects would have lined up to purchase Cursor, and the deal from xAI was probably the best of the lot. Marks an end to a remarkable sprint for a 3yo company, and an admirable exit (considering the recent discombobulation of W…

Do you really think anyone is using AWS Kiro or Google Antigravity? They are not real competitors in the slightest.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Sure, but is it worth 60 billion?

SpaceX thinks so.

SpaceX the space rocket and internet satellite company? Or SpaceX the Elon Musk piggy bank used to buy up all his financial misadventures?

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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So SpaceX bought a $60B Option on Cursor, plus a bunch of services, for $10B. If strike date comes and Cursor is in fact worth less than $60B... they can move to acquire it for that price. Or just let it "expire". And if it's worth more, they get a savage good deal. If the services were worth $8B anyway, it's hard to lose. It seems less crazy to me through this lens. A straight acquisition, today, at $60B would in fa…

What's crazy is that a company that sells an IDE (that's not even a particularly good one compared to competitors like JetBrains) integrating some AI plugins could be worth more than $60B...

can't X recreate one with 1B? As an IDE, honestly I can't even understand it needs more than 1M to create

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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You've literally got tools like opencode that are MIT licensed. Most of those points X could do on their own or are things that make this attractive for cursor not X. e.g. Need developer data? Use some of that spare GPU compute, hand out free top end model coding access for a bit and you'll very rapidly have developer data >decent enterprise relationships I guess. 60B worth of "relationships" though?

But if the developers are to presumably use the model you give out, what data are you going to get from them thats useful?

I don't know - was GP speculating that there is value there on a scale to justify 60B no me

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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post #583

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's crazy is that a company that sells an IDE (that's not even a particularly good one compared to competitors like JetBrains) integrating some AI plugins could be worth more than $60B...

Because of user count? Same was said about instagram. with all due respect, devs don't seem to understand business

Who are the users? I haven't seen many pro users using cursor
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