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France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by p_ing »

xorcist wrote: post #254
ethbr1 wrote: post #222

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What's the Linux version of AD and group policies? (honestly curious; linux sysadmin at scale not my day job)

I don't know. What's the Windows equivalent of dpkg (from 1993) and ssh (from 1995)? Still nothing, three decades later. Not because Microsoft engineers couldn't do it, of course, but becasue they didn't want to. It doesn't fit the Windows model. They did recently adopt SSH, but that was because they want to use Windows in cloud-like environments, where expectations are set by Linux-style tools. By the time Windows g…

GP dates back to Win95/NT4.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

lionkor wrote: post #191

All the comments about Linux gaming make me want to give my $0.02. I've been gaming on Linux, with no Windows installed anywhere, for around 6 years. In the first 3 years, it was a massive pain. Games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would consistently have issues with mouse input, weird acceleration, a lot of games wouldn't run at all. This is NO LONGER the case at all. Things run very well out of the box. All games I want to pl…

My concern has long been, what happens when I want to do something weird?

I have a projector that supports stereoscopic 3D. Sometimes I use things like HelixMod to add 3D to games. What would that look like on Linux?

Sometimes I use GPU driver settings to force games to use higher render resolutions (above my monitor's resolution), or better anisotropic filtering. What does that look like?

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by p_ing »

stunseed wrote: post #123
Gud wrote: post #86

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No it makes no sense at all. I do my gaming on Arch. Windows sucks and I hope to see the demise of Microsoft during my lifetime(crosses fingers).

Most of their revenue is tied to other stuff though 1. Productivity / Business (~43%) Includes: Microsoft 365 (Office, Teams) - these can be likely ported to Linux if they're not already since they also work on MacOS? LinkedIn Dynamics (ERP/CRM) ~$120.8B 2. Cloud (~38%) Includes: Azure (runs on mostly linux, and moving cloud provider as a big corp is expensive, I don't see massive companies stuck in azure infra movin…

Azure services mostly run on Windows via Hyper-V, sans core networking.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by p_ing »

ImJamal wrote: post #366
stunseed wrote: post #123

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Most of their revenue is tied to other stuff though 1. Productivity / Business (~43%) Includes: Microsoft 365 (Office, Teams) - these can be likely ported to Linux if they're not already since they also work on MacOS? LinkedIn Dynamics (ERP/CRM) ~$120.8B 2. Cloud (~38%) Includes: Azure (runs on mostly linux, and moving cloud provider as a big corp is expensive, I don't see massive companies stuck in azure infra movin…

> Microsoft 365 (Office, Teams) - these can be likely ported to Linux if they're not already since they also work on MacOS? I thought the Mac versions were not a full fledged port and were missing features present in Windows.

You’re correct.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by himata4113 »

fluoridation wrote: post #553
himata4113 wrote: post #259

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Well actually I've been technically playing all the games that are protected by these aggressive anticheats on linux since I've decided to switch. My setup is a custom version of the linux kernel that 'backdoors' itself and exposes host information to the windows vm making all the anticheats happy enough to work out of the box. Have not gotten banned in any of the games either. Custom VMM and EDK builds are required…

If you have to run a Windows VM anyway, why not just reboot into Windows?

Because I would have to reboot into windows including any active applications I have? That also means I would have to maintain TWO operating systems instead of just one.

Now I have a form of WSL (LSW heh). There is a reason why everyone on windows uses WSL these days, same concept applies for LSW, but for games.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by bulbar »

benj111 wrote: post #664
dwedge wrote: post #482

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One eu country or another has been talking about this for at least a decade. Nothing will happen this time either, or we'll get another of those things like the weird owncloud knock off that is totally developed by the EU

On the other hand in 2018 Europe managed to sort out LNG etc pretty quick. I'm kind of surprised it hasn't been louder and faster after the tariffs came in, but we've already had investigation after investigation into monopoly practices, the EU is working on domestic payment processing. So the political will is there. I assume they're just quietly getting on with sorting it out.

Exactly. They know there's nothing to win by being vocal about it. But it's obvious that there has been a general shift within all of EU.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by mrjay42 »

Zababa wrote: post #251
mrjay42 wrote: post #70

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There's been some 'back and forth' or "progress and regress' about this. Adoption of Free Software: 2012 Prime Minister circular — the most important formal turning point: Orientations pour l'usage des logiciels libres dans l'administration, signed on 19 September 2012. It explicitly gave guidance to public administrations on free software use. 2016 Digital Republic Law — reinforced the direction by encouraging publi…

>a right-side political figure, who are basically ruling since 2000, (except from 2012-2017 where France had a social-democratic government and president) This is not really true, since 2017 we have a centrist president. For the legal power, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Assembly_(France)#Fif... .

You know it's not because someone calls themselves a "centrist", or a "humanist", or a "communist" that they actually are

Macron's actions and decisions speak for themselves

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_New_Caledonia_unrest

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_vests_protests#Fataliti...

* https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uber_Files

* https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/10/24/i...

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by mastermage »

lionkor wrote: post #191

All the comments about Linux gaming make me want to give my $0.02. I've been gaming on Linux, with no Windows installed anywhere, for around 6 years. In the first 3 years, it was a massive pain. Games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would consistently have issues with mouse input, weird acceleration, a lot of games wouldn't run at all. This is NO LONGER the case at all. Things run very well out of the box. All games I want to pl…

I think Marvel Rivals works fine so its not all Competitive Shooters ä.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by pizza234 »

davkan wrote: post #659
fluoridation wrote: post #621

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More work than using custom builds of everything on the Linux host?

It’s just the kernel and virtualization stack that are custom. Dual booting is annoying as you lose access to your entire desktop environment. Want to tab out of your game and check your email client? Well you can’t unless you maintain another email on the Windows partition that you only want to use for running a game anyway. If you spend any significant amount of time gaming you just end up getting dragged away from…

I used vfio in the past, and it's not true that setups like vfio or custom kernel/virtualization "just" work. For starters, custom setups need management. There are even latest generation GPUs whose drivers are not fully VFIO compatible.

VFIO had a host of problems that are rarely mentioned, because VFIO "just" works: power management, card driver, compatibility, audio passthrough or maybe not, USB passthrough or maybe not, stuttering, and so on.

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