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OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by ziiiiig »

randall wrote: post #650
zingerlio wrote: post #605

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OpenAI employees put knives on their own necks to demand Altman to get back and be their boss [1], not too long ago, right? Altman wiggles his tongues and makes them a solid paycheck. "We will not be divided," unless the water boils slow enough. Wait for a few months, he will renegotiate the terms with DoD, just like his move to turn OpenAI into a for-profit. [1]: https://www.wired.com/story/openai-staff-walk-protest…

i don’t get it. what’s his motive in your view? he literally has no shares in openai.

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

xphos wrote: post #669
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #603

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You mean like all of the religious leaders who are actively supporting a defending a three time married adulterer? You’ll have to excuse my skepticism of the morality of “the moral majority”.

Not claiming all religious people everywhere are some moral majority? Simply that people die for there beliefs and don't sellout. It happens in religion, politics etc. Also it's some super faulty logic to say look those prominent religious people support trump so all religous people support him is stupid. If that were the case Trump would win every election by massive margins. Trump might win 60/40 in rural areas the…

80% of Evangelical Christians voted for Trump.

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

charcircuit wrote: post #662
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #552

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The president has no authority to do this. Federal departments and agencies are named by Congress, and even the Republicans in Congress have shown no interest in formalizing this.

The president can't change the law itself, but he can change the name they use.

The law defines the name they should be using

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Post by charcircuit »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #673
charcircuit wrote: post #662

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The president can't change the law itself, but he can change the name they use.

The law defines the name they should be using

It's not like there is a law that says they have to use that name on their X account or what domain to use for their website or emails.

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Post by retsibsi »

remarkEon wrote: post #571
retsibsi wrote: post #475

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Is there any reason at all to believe the account of the unnamed "defence official"? Whatever your position on this administration, you know that it lies like the rest of us breathe. With a denial from the other side and a lack of any actual evidence, why should I give it non-negligible credence?

Anonymous sources are bad again. Glad we could clear that up.

That's a copout and you know it. You're focusing on the 'unnamed' part; I'm focusing on the 'representative of an administration that lies constantly and brazenly' part.

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Post by pbnjay »

pbnjay wrote: post #143

I had kept my Plus subscription just because I was lazy, and it was inexpensive and convenient… but this turn definitely helped me get off the fence. I am exporting and deleting my data now, and the cancellation is already done.

For anyone reading this later, I got my data export and deleted my account and got a pro-rated refund. So double whammy!

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Post by matsemann »

qudat wrote: post #658
matsemann wrote: post #262

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It's why I think "software engineer" is a misnomer. We don't have a license, we don't have an ethics code, we don't sign off on stuff. In other disciplines, an engineer could topple a project they feel is unsafe or against code, and be backed by their union if replaced. A software engineer just says yes if their stocks aren't vested, and will be replaced if not.

I just looked this up so might not be fully accurate but it seems most private sector “engineers” don’t require a license. You only need a PE license when providing a service to the public. That is quite a strict band on the title.

Might also be different between countries. But a bridge wouldn't be built without an engineer signing off on it being safe. A process change at a production facility would need an engineer to approve that the output still will follow specs etc

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Post by vixen99 »

wackget wrote: post #637
cheonn638 wrote: post #391

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> theyre food delivery robots, thats not a gun that a drink dispenser!" You underestimate how many top AI scientists are perfectly okay with building autonomous weapons systems and are not ashamed of it. Me, and 99% of HN readers, will gladly pull the trigger to release a missile from a drone if we are paid even just US$1,000,000/year. Now note that many L7+ at OpenAI are making $10 million+ per year.

> Me, and 99% of HN readers, will gladly pull the trigger to release a missile from a drone if we are paid even just US$1,000,000/year. I sincerely doubt that's true. I hope it's not. $1m is a lot of money, but I find it hard to believe most people would be willing to indiscriminately kill a large number of people for it.

Never mind people in the US, there are plenty of people elsewhere happy to work with their governments who are doubtless developing such autonomous entities.

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webdevver wrote: post #403
karmasimida wrote: post #100

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Sam is a player and honestly the more interesting one in the whole thing. Mad respect to Sam, now I believe OpenAI have better chance to win in the race

absolute truth nuke and the hysteria around it is yet more evidence that HN is a negative signal. anything HN countersignals, go long on.

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