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Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by Seattle3503 »

mcv wrote: post #669

I'm not necessarily opposed to age restrictions, but letting each website figure out its own age verification system is a terrible idea. Uploading your ID to lots of websites opens you up to identity theft. Any government that demands age verification from websites, should offer an eID system where each site can redirect you for the age verification. That way random sites don't have to worry about handling sensitive…

Yes, a good digital ID system would enable age verification in a way that protects privacy.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by rockskon »

BrouteMinou wrote: post #487
tabbott wrote: post #430

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

Why zulip instead of the good ol' IRC?

Last I checked, IRC wasn't really mobile-friendly.

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Post by VoidWhisperer »

tabbott wrote: post #430

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

Based on some (admittedly very surface level) research, one spot where Zulip will still struggle to replace Discord is Voice/Video chats and Screensharing - the little I could find about voice chatting in zulip is that it has to be configured to use an external service (jitsi, zoom, etc)

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Post by sneak »

Somewhat related: I created an HN users Signal group, following the massive success and utility of creating a friends-and-associates Signal groupchat (that ends up discussing privacy/security/AI/etc).

HN User Chat: https://signal.group/#CjQKICCPlygJ6YXA0jqqOcE0K3AHovCOX4WKEN...

If you follow me and want to join my friends-and-associates one, I’m @sneak.07 on Signal.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by sankhao »

tabbott wrote: post #430

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

Thanks for your work. Moved my company from Slack to self-hosted Zulip after Salesforce unilaterally decided to transfer our account to Alibaba Cloud and the transition has been very smooth. We especially appreciate proper markdown support !

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by fruitworks »

wolvoleo wrote: post #39
accrual wrote: post #23

Here's the October 2025 Discord data breach mentioned at the end of the article: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8jmzd972leo > Discord, a messaging platform popular with gamers, says official ID photos of around 70,000 users have potentially been leaked after a cyber-attack. However, their senior director states in this Verge article: > The ID is immediately deleted. We do not keep any information around like your…

And do they really actually delete it this time?

I have it on good authority that they really truly delete it this time, super duper pinky promise

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Post by drzaiusx11 »

boca_honey wrote: post #302
drzaiusx11 wrote: post #4

F** that, guess I'm leaving that platform too now...

I think this will be the kneejerk reaction of many, but then you'll have to face the consequences (de facto social isolation) and probably acquiesce. I had the same reaction when platforms started asking for my cellphone number... after some years I just started giving it to them. Now I don't even think about it.

Then you and I are not the same. If a platform asks for more than I'm willing to give it, it's time to leave. I've done this enough times that it's simply routine. If it means I suffer "defacto social isolation", whatever that is, so beit. I'm old and I've cultivated a group of close nit friends that live nearby most of the year, we'll manage just fine without discord.

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Post by tabbott »

numbers wrote: post #656
tabbott wrote: post #430

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

man, I want to support something like Zulip, I would even want to work on a product like this but one thing I'd say is you have to go back and study why Slack beat Hipchat and others. It's so simple in hindsight but it was the marketing and the UI/UX of Slack that made it so much easier to use. If you'd like, I have a ton of ideas and experience building UIs and would love to give you some of my input. Too much typin…

You should stop by #feedback in chat.zulip.org and share your ideas!

Regarding the history: Slack had very effective marketing, powered by a lot of venture capital. And HipChat was a weak product that had an embarrassing total hack, which did not leave customers with confidence that their data was safe there.

Zulip is not venture-funded, so we're reliant on people sharing it with others to get the word out.

As a side note, I don't think Slack could have succeeded if it launched today. Microsoft Teams has far far more users as Slack, and it's slopware. You can thank the end of anti-trust enforcement for that.

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Post by scotty79 »

tabbott wrote: post #430

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

It's kind of weird that e2ee is kind of afterthought everywhere. If I was making a chat system I'd obviously didn't want to keep anything that the users talk about on my servers unencrypted or decryptable. Why would you? If something is supposed to be public then keep it. If not, don't.

The weird "we pinky promise to try to keep it non-public for some time" is a weird idea.

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