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De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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The most important thing to understand is where the value of the US dollar comes from. It's the US military. More generally speaking, it's US foreign policy. The US military is the force that enables foreign policy. Understand this and you'll avoid falling into various traps and conspiracy theories. For example, there are people who believe that the US invasion of Iraq was caused by Iraq wanting to sell oil in euros…

Your first paragraph is close to correct, but have you thought of the difference between supportive vs coercive power? If the Russian army is the force that enables Russian foreign policy, they why do some people in Ukraine think that they don't want to do things the Russian way? Likewise, I wonder how helpful the US military will be at forcing our former allies to do things they don't want to do?

It's a fair question but the answer is fairly simple: the Russian military simply isn't strong. The only reason they haven't been bombed back into the Stone Age is because they have a nuclear arsenal. That has limited the West's response to being "proportionate".

The Russian-Ukraine front is kinda like WW1. There's no real air power to speak of. The front is dominated by artillery and infantry and fortifications like trenches.

Russia cannot project military power anywhere like how the US can and the US has decades of projecting that power to force countries to capitulate, essentially. Europe outsourced their security to the US, for example. But make no mistake: NATO is a protection racket. It projects American power into Europe.

This is one reason why I call this administration inept because they seem intent on splintering NATO, which actually diminishes American power. Just like disbanding USAID diminished American soft power, and quite cheaply at that.

The lesson since at least the (W) Bush administration is that only nuclear weapons can guarantee your survival.

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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I remember studying pre-WWI history, and particularly how carefully Bismarck arranged German foreign policy like he was the diplomatic equivalent of Bobby Fischer. Everything was situated perfectly and Germany was totally content. Then along came the absolute moron Wilhelm, and he managed to Leroy Jenkins Germany's beautifully arranged relationships into an aggressive, tactless nightmare where all Germany's allies we…

What were the political commitments of the writers of the pre-WWI history you read? Could they have an incentive to characterize things this way?

The summation aligns with everything I've ever read from anyone about Bismarck and Kaiser Wilhelm.

Behind the Bastards has a pretty good couple of episodes on this little corner of history: https://podcasts.apple.com/ke/podcast/part-one-kaiser-wilhel...

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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China is intentionally undermining the dollar in order to try to make the Yuan the world currency[1,2,3]. My current hypothesis is that the growth in the _price_ of the US Stock market (eg S&P 500) is actually devaluation of the dollar. Compared to real money (Gold) the S&P500 is down over the past 10 years. [4] 1 - https://www.reddit.com/r/economy/comments/1o2s6qp/yuan_has_s... 2 - https://www.economist.com/china/20…

Yes. They are playing chess while the US is playing "shoot yourself in the dick".

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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Interestingly, there seems to be more good will and amiable vibes between EU nationalities than within the US even. Even being enemies for a thousand years, I don't doubt that Swedish and Danish men would go to war for one another, or French and German. It's complicated yes, but the continent is more unified in spirit than it may seem to an outsider.

German here: I'd go to war (and likely will, with how it's looking currently) for any country that shares our values and is an ally or friend, that's being attacked by an evil force such as russia. And that of course includes my french brothers to the west.

That's pretty caveated. Not exactly a ringing war cry

Shares values AND Ally AND Being attacked AND Attacker is evil

I think you'll continue to be safe posting on HN

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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Are you familiar with a country named Iraq?

Obviously, but we're comparing apples and oranges here. - Iraq was never a major oil concern for the US . Perhaps maybe stabilizing global oil prices - but the primary beneficiaries were actually our European and Asian allies. - We never just "took" the oil for our domestic market (which is what we are basically doing in Venezuela) - Even policymakers who have publicly admitted that Iraq was a massive intelligence an…

> - Even policymakers who have publicly admitted that Iraq was a massive intelligence and political failure all agree that regional stability was always the main goal.

And in their spare time they pretend to sell bridges to people? Nobody sane would believe that invading a country promotes regional stability. The idea is absurdist, the point of invading a country is destabilising it and disrupting any power that the locals might have. Forcefully toppling governments and killing large numbers of people has never been a credible path to stability.

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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German here: I'd go to war (and likely will, with how it's looking currently) for any country that shares our values and is an ally or friend, that's being attacked by an evil force such as russia. And that of course includes my french brothers to the west.

Spanish here: I wouldn't go to war even for my own country, imagine for the likes of France or Germany.

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Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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I believe Saddam Hussein would disagree with you, if he could. Just bonkers how basic history is getting rewritten. "The great satan USA" has been a slogan since the 1960s. The US dropped napalm and agent orange on Vietnamese civilians en masse - Lyndon B Johnson was what, a good guy? What on earth are people learning about today?

Interesting you'd think I know about 1980's Hong Kong political handover of power and not know about whatever whataboutism you're spouting. Truly remarkable.

Bro is cooked

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

#679

Is the US dollar losing its dominance? The answer is both A) yes and B) it doesn't matter. Yes, US dollar is losing a bit of power and influence. This is likely to continue. Making inferences about the US global dominance based on this fact is misguided. US global dominance is as strong as ever and, if anything, getting stronger. US has very successfully managed to move the game a level above currency, to direct gove…

> direct governance via financial [means] This is going to disappear if USD is no longer the dominant currency.

The exact point I'm making is that this is NOT the case! US has super strong financial control over most of the world in a way which is NOT connected to the strength of the US currency.
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