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I had a 16E and it was buggy, cramped, confusing, and drained my battery. My fault for being poor and not wanting to spend the extra $400 for a 16. IOS26 broke my device, and what recourse do I have? None.
> what recourse do I have? Buy a Pixel 9a for $399, flash GrapheneOS.
It's hard to justify Tahoe icons
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Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons
#672It's the software equivalent of fast fashion.
Just avoid it and stay with true and tried staples instead.
Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons
#673It's hard to justify Liquid Glass in general. The wastefulness of flat design (in terms of space) married with the visual excess of skeuomorphism, but without even providing any affordances (does the sidebar being raised give you any new information on how to use a sidebar? No). If you're a designer at a top 10 S&P 500 company making 6 figures, you owe it to yourself to have some love for your craft. If a PM tells yo…
> If a PM tells you to shove a UI style More than likely designers are making up work to justify their jobs. Not good for your career if you admit the desktop interface was perfected in ~1995.
Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons
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Without hyperbole, Liquid Glass on Mac OS is visually the worst commercial desktop UX I have ever had the displeasure of using. It is amateurish and frankly, ill advised to have even tried to unify the aesthetic across devices so universally. I think much of what is on the phone works fine. There are some pain points and some bits that are visually awkward, but generally it works and is new and fresh, but on the Mac…
I agree. My first rebuttal was going to be Windows 8, but that was actually a lot better.
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>I think the key issue with macOS is that they don't seem to have someone who is looking at the whole ecosystem holistically to make sure that there's consistency and integration across experiences. That person died in 2011.
Rose tinted glasses. Have a look through Jobs era UI again.
But it had taste and attention to detail. It followed Apple's own HIG (design guidelines). The UI had some flashy details, but they had a purpose or at least didn't get in the way. I don't feel any of this in the current Apple designs.
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#678Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons
#679The past wasn't as rosy: while the left column is purposefully confusing (the icons don't match the description), the lack of keyboard shortcuts is just bad design "for the sake of emptiness". It degrades, rather than enhances, the "usability of the interface"
And re. icons: while this is correct
> The main function of an icon is to help you find what you are looking for faster.
The following isn't as straight-forward
> Perhaps counter-intuitively, adding an icon to everything is exactly the wrong thing to do. To stand out, things need to be different. But if everything has an icon, nothing stands out.
Not really, there is plenty of difference - length, the presense of ... ellipsis ..., the presence of a keyboard shortcut, the icon itself. This combo gives visual cues without reading, so improves the ease of finding. Yes, it would be better to have colors here and there, but then you have the following fundamental issue:
> Look how much faster you can find Save or Share in the right variant:
But "Save" is something I do NOT want to find fast, I never use that menu item! So I'd prefer the slighly worse (but not bad) busy version rather than a highlight of useless menu items and no icons for the menus I'd actually use!
Of course, there is an easy way out - user customization to match user needs (maybe you never use shortcuts, fine, remove the "noise" then; maybe you don't care about "Save", fine, remove the icon there), but that was anathema even in 1992.
(but otherwise very good criticism of the basic design fails like tiny size, inconsistency, lack of vertical alignment, bad metaphors, etc.)
Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons
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I’ve said many times before that I think Finder is the worst default file manager of any popular desktop environment. I get it’s supposed to be easy to use but so much functionality is hidden behind non-obvious shortcuts. The end result is you either need to memorise a dozen secret handshakes just to perform basic operations, or you give up and revert to 70s technology in the command line.
> I’ve said many times before that I think Finder is the worst default file manager of any popular desktop environment. [GNOME enters the chat]: "That's nothing, I'm way worse!"
However in my personal opinion Nautilus’s breadcrumb picker does edge it against Finder.
So I stand by my comment that Finder is the worst.