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Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Post by wlesieutre »

neilv wrote: post #415
a4isms wrote: post #353

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Poe's Law notwithstanding, I find it hard to believe that anyone would think I was making a good faith business acumen observation. If Optimus walks you to the kitchen to get a coke, what's Tesla's business model? Charge by the nanosecond for compute time?

Purchase/lease access to the hardware, subscription for the necessary online connectivity, and microtransactions for each actual use of it (ostensibly because of cloud compute, and that also means surveillance data is captured and monetized).

Sell you a $10,000 upgrade for Full Self Awareness capability then don’t deliver it an change the hardware requirements

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Post by ai_updates »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #397
astura wrote: post #213

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So because of an advertisement you might have seen 40 years ago you made up a major funding source out of whole cloth?

No. I also read about the funding reveal. I also mentioned that, but I guess it didn’t register.

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Post by idiotsecant »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #483
a4isms wrote: post #404

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The business model for Tesla and xAI is actually very simple and superior to OpenAI and Google's. No, this is not satire: The business model is that his companies are meme stocks, and controlling social media means controlling meme stocks. The business model is also that his companies require corporate socialism, and controlling social media means influencing government policy. He can talk about AI driving cars, but…

And just like all meme stocks and so-called stablecoins, it'll work until it doesn't. The fall will be dramatic.

Stablecoins is a weird topic to randomly insert there. You want to elaborate on why all stablecoins will fail? This is a pretty ...novel take.

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Post by idiotsecant »

scuff3d wrote: post #564
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #256

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I can't wait for the instructions to start having ads embedded. 2. Place the turkey in your GE Two in One Oven set to 350, cooking for 10 minutes a lbs. 3. While waiting for your Turkey to finish cooking, why not have an ice cold Coke Zero? Click here for nearby locations. 4. Remove Turkey from the oven, let rest for ten minutes while listening to Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars sing "Die with a Smile" on Spotify.

At least those are obvious. Them sneaking ads in that don't look like ads are what I'm more concerned about.

They won't have to sneak in anything. On the contrary. The world is about to be deluged with a monsoon of personalized advertising the likes of which you've only previously imagined. They have the data, they have the buyers, they just so far don't have the means. All this AI hardware has to do something to justify its staggering cost and all that compute, all those datacenters, are going to be devoted to crafting personalized sales pitches. The distilled essence of all of humanity's information is going to sell you boner pulls and hair loss supplements

The enshittification of the LLM has begun and it'll be one of the all time shittiest ones.

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Post by swexbe »

aurareturn wrote: post #218
swexbe wrote: post #153

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All chat apps look exactly the same and have exactly the same features. The friction is basically non-existent compared to email services, social media, web browsers, &c.

Yet, somehow I've been paying $20/month to ChatGPT for years now and I don't use Claude or Gemini even when they're free or have slightly better models.

weird flex

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Post by embedding-shape »

CodingJeebus wrote: post #513
embedding-shape wrote: post #432

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I know it's a joke, but the ads will surely be much more stealthy than that. Advertisers are gonna want to drive people to products and websites without it being clear it's actually an ad, like subtle ranking things differently, or trying to nudge users into some direction.

(smart) advertising customers will want to see metrics and reporting on how their ad campaigns are doing, and making ads that are too subtle runs the risk that the customer is being charged for a weakly or sneakily worded message that they perhaps don't like. Also curious how they're gonna generate reliable, deterministic reporting for crafty embedded ads when LLMs are famously non-deterministic.

> advertising customers will want to see metrics and reporting

You're assuming the customers who want to advertise on ChatGPT will want it to look like the typical low quality internet ads, not like billboards or "company branding marketing", something I think is much more likely.

Instead of selling impressions/clicks, they'll sell "injections" that hopefully (from their PoV) at least has some impact, like a billboard or TV ad today.

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Post by LastTrain »

senordevnyc wrote: post #578
LastTrain wrote: post #472

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I don’t reconcile it, I was giving an anecdote, one that would seem to easily fit in with your personal summary of some poll you read about.

No, the polls I’ve seen are more like 50/50, not the kind of universal utter hatred you’re portraying here. Color me skeptical.

What polls are you referring to? We did a non-anonymous poll at work which went something like “has using AI tool X made you more productive”, and the results were something like 50/50. If you asked my thanksgiving holiday crowd something like that you might get mixed results. If you asked them is AI an agent of good, do you trust what is happening with AI it would all be negative. People don’t like it.

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Post by ethmarks »

klntsky wrote: post #533
blackjack_ wrote: post #531

I can drop in replace LLMs in my everyday usage. If OpenAI introduces ads, I will switch and never look back. They have no Moat, and right now the Chinese companies catch up shortly after the models are released… All these arguments about average people not knowing about other LLM companies can be fixed with a simple internet search or information sharing. No big deal.

Opensource LLMs are absolutely not on par with gpt-5 for any agentic workflows

The average ChatGPT user isn't utilizing agentic workflows.

And even for the people that do, just because an LLM isn't absolutely state of the art doesn't invalidate it from being useful.

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