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Post by citizenpaul »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #266
saguntum wrote: post #205

I wonder if they're going to license this to brands for heavily personalized advertisement. Imagine being able to see videos of yourself wearing clothes you're buying online before you actually place the order, instead of viewing them on a model. If they got the generation "live" enough, imagine walking past a mirror in a department store and seeing yourself in different clothes. Wild times.

You don't need generative AI for that at all, snapchat filters have existed for a decade and are the same concept. A lot of brands have already adopted that.

I'm surprised I had to ctrl-f this far for the first snapchat mention. Same. All I see here is snapchat except on any platform. Far from a tiktok competitor and far from revolutionary.

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Post by stogot »

thefourthchime wrote: post #661
simonw wrote: post #117

The main lesson I learned from the March ChatGPT image generation launch - which signed up 100 million new users in the first week - is that people love being able to generate images of their friends and family (and pets). I expect the "cameo" feature is an attempt at capturing that viral magic a second time.

Nano Banana finally got people to install Gemini.

Since when have to install Gemini? I’ve been using it via the web

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Post by bee_rider »

morleytj wrote: post #496
the_duke wrote: post #273

I haven't seen comments regarding a big factor here: It seems like OpenAI is trying to turn Sora into a social network - TikTok but AI. The webapp is heavily geared towards consumption, with a feed as the entry point, liking and commenting for posts, and user profiles having a prominent role. The creation aspect seems about as important as on Instagram, TikTok etc - easily available, but not the primary focus. Genera…

Not to be a downer, but even as someone very optimistic about technology and AI generally, "TikTok but AI" sounds like a societally terrible thing to try and create. What's the benefit of this? Curious if anyone has a solid viewpoint steelmanning any positives they can think of.

Maybe finally this is the social media thing that will cause people on realize it is all too dumb, and get them to disengage? (Although I have thought this about every new development for the last ~15 years so I guess it is not too hopeful).

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Post by outside1234 »

This is going to be a disaster. We are never going to be able to trust a video again and in short order propagandists are going to be using this to generate god knows what.

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Post by oceanplexian »

gyomu wrote: post #596
bonoboTP wrote: post #578

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not the final target. It's video generation now, but that's just a stepping stone. The real thing is that learning a generator is also learning a prior over videos, and hence over how the world works. The real application of this will be word models, vision-language action models, spatial AI and robotics. Basically a kind of learned simulator in which to plan and imagine possible futures, possible actions and…

> This is not the final target The final target of these "world models" on a 20 year horizon is entirely unmanned factories taking over the economy, and swarm of drones and robots fighting wars and policing citizens. This is why hundreds of billions are poured into these things, cute Ghibli style videos and vacuum robots wouldn't be worth this much money otherwise.

What’s so romantic about working in factories? Automation and robotics will accelerate the economy the same way information technology did, and humans will work on better problems than performing repeated tasks on an assembly line or flipping burgers.

There are arguably more jobs today as a result of computers than there were before they were invented. So why is the assumption that AI will magically delete all jobs while discounting the fact that it will create careers we haven’t even thought of?

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Post by 1989labs »

qoez wrote: post #27

I know the comments here are gonna be negative but I just find this so sick and awesome. Feels like it's finally close to the potential we knew was possible a few years ago. Feels like a pixar moment when CG tech showed a new realm of what was possible with toy story

Cool demo! But let’s pour one out for all the weird, janky, hand crafted videos that made early internet so fun. Anyone else still crave that kind of content?

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Post by mallowdram »

bonoboTP wrote: post #578
afavour wrote: post #555

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was my reaction when I saw Meta’s “Vibes” app. Who wants to browse a stream of exclusively AI generated videos? Obviously Meta wants that because it’s a lot cheaper than actually paying real people to make content… but it’s slop.

This is not the final target. It's video generation now, but that's just a stepping stone. The real thing is that learning a generator is also learning a prior over videos, and hence over how the world works. The real application of this will be word models, vision-language action models, spatial AI and robotics. Basically a kind of learned simulator in which to plan and imagine possible futures, possible actions and…

There are no world models in there, it's trained on arbitrary images/sequences. There are no world models in us, we learn from only specifics in topological space, stitched together in sharp wave ripples. Everything is from detached memories working through optic flow. That's not a world model, it's not even a model. It's an analog. This whole world model thing is another branding phase after language models failed to deliver. After world models it will be neuro symbolic, then RL will sweep in like a final boss fight, and then... it still won't work. Notice anything about these names? They're walking pneumonia paradoxes.

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Post by Rover222 »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #589

I just asked GPT 5 to generate an image of as person. I then asked it to charge the color of their shirt. It refused because "I can’t generate that specific image because it violates our content policies." I then asked it to just regenerate the first image again using the same prompt. It replied "I know this has been frustrating. You’ve been really clear about what you want, and it feels like I’m blocking you for no…

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