Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…
Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
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Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
#672Do you mind me asking if you'll be self hosting mattermost? If so they're moving to a 1000 User hard limit for self hosted instances. https://forum.mattermost.com/t/solved-is-there-any-limitatio...
Seems like they've gone past even their own '1000' users. In v11 it's a cap of 250 users! They're also rapidly removing features for team too. - User limits were lowered to final threshold of 250 for Mattermost Team Edition - GitLab SSO has been deprecated from Team Edition. - Playbooks has stopped working for Team Edition. I have altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further. What's happening on the hosted sid…
Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
#673Since you're a nonprofit that teaches coding, it could be a great time to consider self-hosting a FOSS chat tool. Suggestions: Campfire [0] or Zulip [1]. Also, if the data in chat is being held hostage, the org might be using chat wrong. Right tool for right purpose. If starting over, perhaps consider if it would make sense to put that documentation or whatever it is that will get "lost" from Slack into a wiki or rep…
Campfire is definitely not FOSS: https://once.com/license
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#674Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
#675At this rate it's cheaper to pay a full time DevOps team to run several Matrix servers so you have high availability.
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#676I'm left to wonder why do we even use words anymore, when tipping isn't optional, when purchasing doesn't mean you own the thing you buy, and an agreement can be changed without notice.
Why is it called tip and not fee. Why is it called purchase and not rent. Why is it called agreement and not... well I don't even know what to call that... a pinky promise?
We are building a culture of cynicism and calling it progress. It's just pyramid schemes and consumer abuse disguised as innovation.
I just can't trust anything anymore.
Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
#677Providers will increase price but multi-fold adjustment + for non-profit should really inform way in advance.
Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
#678Earlier quoted context omitted.
Second-hand anecdote: Someone I know who works for Slack made a comment a few years ago that the company regretted giving out so many free instances to different organizations years back. Apparently the number of free Slack instances that had grown very large and high traffic was significant enough that it couldn’t be completely ignored. I disagree with them giving such a short notice period, of course. However I’m n…
It's a chat app. How much traffic can there be? Just hobble the high bandwidth functionalities for non paying instances and be done with it. I find it quite hard to justify the way Slack is behaving.
Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
#679Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…
Fight a monster with a frankenmonster.
Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
#680It's super simple to build with Stream and far lower costs than Slack. (i'm the CEO, founder so don't take my word for it). But we have quite a few customers building either communities into their app or large companies running integrated chat workflows. (think airline operations, construction collaboration etc.)