Live data from Hacker News

4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

kcrw.com

671–680 of 774 posts

Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

#671

For obvious reasons, the people who are most able to find a good gig elsewhere are the most likely to elect to go do so; and they tend to be the people that you'll miss more.

Most of these are just retirees. People who wanted to work at SpaceX over NASA are likely already doing so

Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

#672
post #653

Won't these people just wind up at Lockheed, Raytheon etc.. doing the same work for their customer NASA?

Some will. Others will get hefty signing bonuses from other countries seeing an excellent opportunity to recruit entire already-functional and already-proven teams at once.

I've heard this is what SpaceX did as well

Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

#673
post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Efficiency is important for public institutions but not the highest priority. The highest priority is public service. These institutions should have public good as their north star, not shareholder value

How are those any different considering the public are essentially the shareholders.

No the public is the customer. The difference is between the postal service being profitable and not losing your packages. If not losing packages costs too much for them to be profitable, then the public would want them to operate at a cost but make sure all packages arrive safely

Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

#675

They'll do this now and then act shocked when some of these ex nasa people end up working in Europe or China lol

That doesn't sound legal.

For NASA? I dont see why not. Unless they were doing something related to natsec

Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

#677
post #657

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turns out people like Trump and Gabbard might be smarter than they appear. It's just a pity that they use that against the US.

They aren’t.

They’re not smart, but both of them have been cultivated by Russia for decades.

For a long time Trump has been repeating Russian talking points like he invented them. The best asset is the one who never sees how he’s being played.

Only recently Trump has realized that Putin doesn’t actually do what he says, and you can tell he is genuinely surprised by this revelation.

Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

#678

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you were acting on behalf of the other players in the sequel, these would be great moves.

Turns out people like Trump and Gabbard might be smarter than they appear. It's just a pity that they use that against the US.

Trump is simply a narcissist and socialite who has broad ideas about how he thinks the world should work, but like anyone at a high leadership position, surrounds himself with other people he trusts to execute on the details.

In this case, all of the downsizing that has been happening is right out of the Heritage Foundation playbook, literally.

And those plans are largely a manifestation of Kevin Roberts' political beliefs. He, in his book, has said things such as:

> "many of America's institutions...need to be burned"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn%27s_Early_Light:_Taking_B...

This executive has been criticized as using a hatchet and not a scalpel in their downsizing options precisely because their fundamental driving belief is that all of it is waste and abuse. They don't want any of it.

Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

#680

They'll do this now and then act shocked when some of these ex nasa people end up working in Europe or China lol

Eh. I'm not saying it's a great scheme, but these are almost all people taking retirement a couple years early. China is not interested in stealing 1980s NASA tech, and Europe aerospace is a non-player.

The way you say that more supports the idea these people should have been laid off a while ago.

I bet plenty have that useful "unwritten institutional knowledge" that could help newer programs. (F.ex. instructions for a nuclear waste storage said to use kitty litter, but didn't say it was because it was a cheap source of bentonite clay; someone substituted some modern paper variant and caused a small nuclear incident).

Post reply on HN