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Re: My AI skeptic friends are all nuts

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I am in the middle, neither a dogmatic skeptic nor a full-blown prompt engineer, but I lost it when the author compared a junior developer (a human) to a SaaS subscription. Tells you what you need to know about the AI culture.

I don’t think it’s an uncommon comparison.

If you don’t consider the human aspect, a LLM coding agent has a similar use than a junior developer.

Of course, humans have advantages and those advantages have value. But the coding agent costs $20 dollars a month.

Replacing humans my machines that are much cheaper isn’t really something new.

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post #558

I’m an AI skeptic. I’m probably wrong. This article makes me feel kinda wrong. But I desperately want to be right. Why? Because if I’m not right then I am convinced that AI is going to be a force for evil. It will power scams on an unimaginable scale. It will destabilize labor at a speed that will make the Industrial Revolution seem like a gentle breeze. It will concentrate immense power and wealth in the hands of pe…

I think it will be used for evil, as you said, but I think it will be used for good too, things like: - In theory it has the potential to democratize business, making any 1 person capable of running/owning their own business and thus spread wealth too. - more access to healthcare and psychological care - advances in medicine - tutoring and learning - insane amounts of scientific research - empower anyone with an idea

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post #558

I’m an AI skeptic. I’m probably wrong. This article makes me feel kinda wrong. But I desperately want to be right. Why? Because if I’m not right then I am convinced that AI is going to be a force for evil. It will power scams on an unimaginable scale. It will destabilize labor at a speed that will make the Industrial Revolution seem like a gentle breeze. It will concentrate immense power and wealth in the hands of pe…

No, you won’t slow it down. Did you even read the essay, it’s here.

If powering scams and “destabilizing labor” makes something evil then we should delete the internet. Seriously.

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post #558

I’m an AI skeptic. I’m probably wrong. This article makes me feel kinda wrong. But I desperately want to be right. Why? Because if I’m not right then I am convinced that AI is going to be a force for evil. It will power scams on an unimaginable scale. It will destabilize labor at a speed that will make the Industrial Revolution seem like a gentle breeze. It will concentrate immense power and wealth in the hands of pe…

im sorry to say, i think this boat has sailed. it is already widely used as you fear. to me it seems like the best scenario is to go along and try to at least make it a force of good

Re: My AI skeptic friends are all nuts

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Let's just imagine we're critiquing cars or planes in about 1910. They're so flawed. No one can say with certainty whether or how they will improve.

Side note of interest, from Wikipedia: "Flying Machines Which Do Not Fly" is an editorial published in the New York Times on October 9, 1903. The article incorrectly predicted it would take one to ten million years for humanity to develop an operating flying machine.

Re: My AI skeptic friends are all nuts

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post #558

I’m an AI skeptic. I’m probably wrong. This article makes me feel kinda wrong. But I desperately want to be right. Why? Because if I’m not right then I am convinced that AI is going to be a force for evil. It will power scams on an unimaginable scale. It will destabilize labor at a speed that will make the Industrial Revolution seem like a gentle breeze. It will concentrate immense power and wealth in the hands of pe…

It’s not just engineers. Society has collapsing birthrates and huge deficits. Basically, we are demanding massive technological gains enough to bump GDP by at least 5% more per year.
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