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Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by basisword »

Glyptodon wrote: post #290

I don't have outrage fatigue. Outrages are outrages and they are what they are. Are there many exaggerations and fake outrages? Sure. But things like the USA's current constitutional crisis are real. What I struggle with isn't fatigue at outrage, it's knowing what to do about it. I think violence is going to become more common, but I don't particularly think it will be effective. So less so than outrage, it's the fee…

>> But things like the USA's current constitutional crisis are real.

While I have no doubt this is true, is it _actually_ having any impact on your day to day life? If you didn't have social media, didn't read the news, and somehow didn't even know there was an election (I know this one isn't possible) would your day to day life have changed at all? Look at the past week as an example. Threats of tariffs, headline news, retaliation, and then backing down before anything happened bringing us largely back to where we started.

Don't get me wrong, there are people directly affected by these things and I'm not going to get into whether the approach above is ethical or not. But for most people, I believe you could genuinely switch off and not notice any difference at all.

And even if you know and are well read on the issues (as it sounds like you may be) - what can you do about it? In fact - have you done anything about it? If the answer is no then what's the point in being informed?

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by user3939382 »

majgr wrote: post #570

Living in Poland ruled by trumpists for 8 years I have these experiences: - Get subscription of high value newspaper or magazine. Professionals work there, so you will get real facts, worthy opinions and less emotions. - It is better to not use social media. You never know if you are discussing with normal person, a political party troll, or Russian troll. - It is not worth discussing with „switched-on” people. They…

> Get subscription of high value newspaper or magazine. Professionals work there, so you will get real facts, worthy opinions and less emotions.

All printed papers in the US that I’m aware of serve corporate political interests so I lost you there. Then you have magazines that are aligned with various think tanks and lobbyists. The truth isn’t somewhere in the middle of all this, it’s with totally independent journalists on new media like Rumble.

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Post by cma »

returningfory2 wrote: post #499
lenerdenator wrote: post #488

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In 2019? That was before 2020, and that election resulted in Harris being vice president.

Is your claim seriously that Kamala Harris's image on cultural issues like trans rights did not harm her election campaign? One of Trump's most successful campaign ads was the one that included her talking about government-funded gender affirming care for people in prison. It even has its own Wikipedia page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_is_for_they/them ). The fact that this stuff started in 2019 that she wo…

But when Democrats did change course they were blocked because Trump explicitly said Democrats passing something on the issue would hurt his election chances:

> In February 2024 and again in May 2024, Republicans in the Senate blocked a bipartisan border security bill Biden had pushed for to reduce the number of migrants who can claim asylum at the border and provide more money for Customs and Border Protection officials, asylum officers, immigration judges and scanning technology at the border.[79] It also provided for thousands of work visas for migrant spouses of U.S. citizens awaiting immigrant visas, and 250,000 new visas over five years for people seeking to work in the U.S. or join family members.[80] It was negotiated in a bipartisan manner and initially looked like it had the votes to pass until Donald Trump opposed it, citing that it would boost Biden's reelection chances.

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_policy_of_the_Joe...

He had no political consequence for encouraging blocking it.

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Post by dralley »

zo1 wrote: post #543
dralley wrote: post #529

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60% reduction of a small number is a small number. Go look at how much the numbers dropped from 2022 to 2024. The problem was effectively solved already.

I did look at the numbers, from the official US dataset published I guess by a Biden-controlled admin. https://www.cbp.gov/document/stats/southwest-land-border-enc... And I don't know how you claim such things: Trump 2019: 977,509 Trump 2020: 458,088 (46.86% from previous year) Biden 2021: 1,734,686 (378.68% from previous year) Biden 2022: 2,378,944 (137.14% from previous year) Biden 2023: 2,475,669 (104.07% from pre…

Look at month by month

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by Craighead »

user3939382 wrote: post #672
majgr wrote: post #570

Living in Poland ruled by trumpists for 8 years I have these experiences: - Get subscription of high value newspaper or magazine. Professionals work there, so you will get real facts, worthy opinions and less emotions. - It is better to not use social media. You never know if you are discussing with normal person, a political party troll, or Russian troll. - It is not worth discussing with „switched-on” people. They…

> Get subscription of high value newspaper or magazine. Professionals work there, so you will get real facts, worthy opinions and less emotions. All printed papers in the US that I’m aware of serve corporate political interests so I lost you there. Then you have magazines that are aligned with various think tanks and lobbyists. The truth isn’t somewhere in the middle of all this, it’s with totally independent journal…

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Post by cma »

lmm wrote: post #588
upcoming-sesame wrote: post #372

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I meant a curated list of interesting articles for me sent as an epub to my kindle weekly...

You mean like what happens if you subscribe to TIME on your kindle?

For a billionaire perspective curated list yes:

> Since 2018, Time has been owned by Salesforce founder Marc Benioff, who acquired it from Meredith Corporation. Benioff currently publishes the magazine through the company Time USA, LLC.

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_(magazine)

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Post by andyjohnson0 »

svnt wrote: post #352
AznHisoka wrote: post #294

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I wouldn't care a whole lot if someone told me they weren't in IG, FB, Snap, Twitter, etc. However, if someone told me they never bothered with Linkedin, it would be hard for me to resist bowing at their feet.

I deleted my LinkedIn several years ago. I can only recommend it if you are independently wealthy, want to become an ascetic, or more broadly, your goal is to never be hired or really even evaluated for much in the business world again. None of the rest of the social networks serve as a sanity check on your resume/application/meeting.

I've round linkedin extremely useful recently for finding a new job after being made redundant. It's where the recruiters are, and where the jobs are posted, at least here in the UK. I even paid for a couple of months enhanced membership, or whatever they call it, as a career investment. I'd say its worth the money over the short-term.

As for maintaining an up-to-date profile, I think its worth dialing-down the access unless you're actively looking for a new job.

But the bs that people post to try to get "engagement" makes my head hurt. I'm about to start a new job in a few weeks and it'll be a relief not to have to bother with linkedin again for a few (hopefully many) years.

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Post by otteromkram »

ge96 wrote: post #393
dbtc wrote: post #252

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My suggestion: music! Give the eyes a break.

I have music/noise on all the time, rarely in silence. I play the same playlist/song over and over when focusing. Unfortunately working in an open office it sucks people having conversions (to each other or to computer)

Man, I hope you wear headphones.

Fun fact: No one is impressed by your "sports" car, but I'll bet 100% don't want hear it and wish the worst upon you.

I know some places are testing sound ticketing, which I cannot wait to see implemented everywhere.

https://www.autoweek.com/news/technology/a39906304/californi...

I hope you get over your noise addiction sooner than later. Or, go broke in the process.

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Post by _7acn »

Tade0 wrote: post #665
myrmidon wrote: post #634

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Out of curiosity-- does "trumpists" mean PiS? Are the "trumpists" still in power? What is the current trend (toward trumpists or away?). > Get subscription of high value newspaper or magazine. Professionals work there, so you will get real facts, worthy opinions and less emotions. This is excellent advise. I'm worrying that post-paper news have a really strong incentive nowadays to drive outrage, and that the current…

They've lost majority in the 2023 elections. The current president (serving his second term) is a big fan of Trump though.

Dudu
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