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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Serious question: Who earns (other than C-level) $150 an hour in a sane (non-US) world?

Why is high salaries an insane thing?

On the one hand, there's the moral argument: we need janitors and plumbers and warehouse workers and retail workers and nurses and teachers and truck drivers for society to function. Why should their time be valued less than anyone elses?

On the other hand there's the economic argument: the supply of people who can stock shelves is greater than the supply of people who can "create value" at a tech company, so the latter deserve more pay.

Depending on how you look at the world, high salaries can seem insane.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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$200 a month is potentially a bargain since it comes with unlimited advanced voice. Via the API, $200 used to only get you 14 hours of advanced voice.

I've got unlimited "advanced voice" with Perplexity for $10/mo. You're defining a bargain based on the arbitrary limits set by the company offering you said bargain.

The advanced voice of ChatGPT is miles ahead of the Perplexity one. I subscribe to both.

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Question, what stops openai from downgrading existing models so that you're pushed up the subscription tiers to ever more expensive models? I'd imagine they're currently losing a ton of money supplying everyone with decent models with a ton of compute behind them because they want us to become addicted to using them right? The fact that classic free web searching is becoming diluted by low quality AI content will mak…

It's definitely not impossible. I think the increase competition they've begun to face over the last year is helping as a deterrent. If people notice GPT 4 sucks now and they can get Claude 3.5 Sonnet for the same price, they'll move. If the user doesn't care enough to move, they weren't going to upgrade anyway.

Also depends on the friction to move. I admittedly have not really started using AI in my work, so I don't know. Is it easy to replace GPT with Claude or do I have to reconfigure a bunch of integration and learn new usage?

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> Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards Interesting! I intentionally edit my keyboard layout to include the em-dash, as I enjoy using it out of sheer pomposity—I should undoubtedly delve into the extent to which my own comments have been used to train GPT models!

On my keyboard (en-us) it's ALT+"-" to get an em-dash. I use it all the time because it's the "correct" one to use, but it's often more "correct" to just rewrite the sentence in a way that doesn't call for one. :)

I think that’s en-dash (–, used for ranges). Em-dash (—, used mid-sentence for asides etc) is the same combo but with shift as well.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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This remind me why enterprise don't integrated OpenAI product into existing toolset, trust is root reason. It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model in a market where content is the most valuable element, compared office, cloud database, etc.

> It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model Bit of a cynical take. A company like OpenAI stands to lose enormously if anyone catches them doing dodgy shit in violation of their agreements with users. And it's very hard to keep dodgy behaviour secret in any decent sized company where any embittered employee can blow the whistle. VW only just managed it with Diese…

If everyone has the same terms and roughly equivalent models, enterprises will continue choosing Microsoft and Amazon.

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I just bought a pro subscription. First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. It can handle unusually long prompts. It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through i…

Writers love the em-dash though. It's a thing.

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This is a significant concern for me too.

It's important to become early users of everything while AI is heavily subsidized. Over time, using open source model as well will get more done per dollar of compute and hopefully the gap will remain close.

Question is if OpenAI is actually making money at $200/month.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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The big question is if OpenAI will achieve "general" AI before their investors get fed up. I wonder if they used the success of ChatGPT to imply that they have a path to it. I don't see how else they achieved such a high valuation.

Spoiler alert: They will not. Anyone claiming they're anywhere near something even remotely resembling AGI is simply lying. What happened to "we're a couple years away from AGI"? Where's the Scaaaaaaryyyyyyy self aware techno god GPT-5? It's all BS to BS investors with. All of the rumored new models that were supposed to be out by now are nowhere to be seen because internally the improvement rate has cratered.

You have no idea. There certainly could be a breakthrough tomorrow that sets off AGI. Researchers across the board have been sounding the alarm bells for years now. There’s not much we can do at this point.

My only hope is that when AGI happens I can fire off an ‘I told you so’ comment before it kills us all.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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I just bought a pro subscription. First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. It can handle unusually long prompts. It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through i…

Anyone who read "The Mac is not a typewriter" — a fantastic book of the early computer age — likely uses em dashes.
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