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10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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> most of the rest of the world has fine relations with Cuba Most of the rest of the world didn't get Soviet nuclear missiles pointed at them by Cuba.

This is 60 years ago... In that same timeframe the EU was formed and grown to 26 nations including roughly 10 that pointed nuclear missiles at each other one time.

What time was that? There aren't even ten nations in the EU with nuclear weapons.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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> I'm not concerned about the crime You may not be concerned about the crime, but many voters are. The author of the article you linked to also exhorts the Somali immigrant community to not engage in crime. > because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency until the 2nd and 3rd generation is able to make it into established society. History and data from various European nations suggest that some immigrant groups…

> various European nations [...] some immigrant groups American Jew here, who spent years living in France and Spain. I've heard the same polite euphemisms refering to Arabs and Gypsies from the mouths of members of the Front National. You know, before 1945 it was said in Europe that Jews weren't able to integrate fully with the host society. One might ask: Was that the Jews' fault? Or the host society's fault? It's…

Personally I think it's less about accepting others, and more about the fact European economy sucks, has rigid job markets, and lacks entrepreneurial spirit. Historically people left Europe to the US, because that's where you could improve your life through hard work. Those Chinese-Americans improved their life by founding successful businesses, which doesn't seem to happen so much over here.

Obviously the US being a land of immigrants with most commonly spoken language in the world helps a lot too. The fact Europe isn't like the US doesn't make it xenophobic. Compared to pretty much anything except the US, it's still among the most accepting towards people of different cultures.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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As a Cuban that is currently living in Cuba, I think it might be useful to voice my opinions, as I have read some comments here which I consider less than accurate in some respects. To avoid typing too much, I'll summarize with... bullet points? * The published figure of 10 million people is already outdated. First, they are official figures, which means that they are not telling the truth. Second, six months have el…

Argentino here. I think Venezuela is going through the same issues. We had A LOT of Venezuelan immigrants in Arg and Chile and they said the same thing you're saying: that people leaving were the "brave, smart, willing to work people" and the ones remaining were the scum.

Can I ask you what are the reasons you decide to stay?

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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post #673

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This is 60 years ago... In that same timeframe the EU was formed and grown to 26 nations including roughly 10 that pointed nuclear missiles at each other one time.

What time was that? There aren't even ten nations in the EU with nuclear weapons.

Just like Cuba didn't really itself point missiles towards the US (it was the soviets), the Warsaw pact nations inside current EU were used as Soviet proxies too.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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The people who really care are Cuban exiles around Miami. When Florida was a swing state, that was enough to make every presidential candidate be pro embargo. Now that Florida is a red state, it might be different.

The Cuban population of Miami is heavily republican and pro-embargo. This is why Obama got rid of it and Trump reinstated it.

the point is that if it's not a swing state politicians don't care about the state wants. so the embargo might fall to the sidelines

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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A bunch of Floridians who are, or are descended from, folks who had their land and businesses seized during the revolution are holding grudges and won’t let go of them until they’re given their stuff back or a ton of money, which, this far on, isn’t happening. Florida is important in Presidential elections. US elections are structured such that dumb stuff like a relatively small—but loud—and also hopeless interest in…

Where does this plantation-owner story come from? How many plantation owners do you think existed? And that still doesn't explain the continual drain happening, to this day, as is evidenced by this very article we're commenting on. What, are these 10% also filthy capitalists somehow? As a Serb whose parents fled an eerily similar situation to Cuba's way back when for greener pastures to the literal other side of the…

you should really read on Cuba before comparing it to Serbia. completely different situation and the people fleeting it in the last decade is exclusively about the the embargo.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

98% of women in Somalia are sexually mutilated. Guess what Somalis are doing in France to their little girls? That s right: they re mutilating them.

But I take it 98% of Somalis women getting sexually mutilated in Somalia is the fault of colonization or something?

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I would still hold a grudge. I hold historical grudges going back centuries.

Native Americans called, they want their land back.

see, that's Castro mistake. he didn't buy scalps from land owner exploiters. imagine if all natives were in Florida today instead of dead.

Russians were more aligned with usa tho...

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