I don't see any mentions of Google but I personally think it's Google that will be the main beneficiary of chaos at OpenAI. After all, weren't they the main competitors? Maybe not in product or business yet but on IP and hiring fronts?
OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns
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Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns
#672Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't really understanding why the workforce is swinging unambiguously behind Altman. I have no inside information. I don't know anyone at Open AI. This is all purely speculation. Now that that's out out the way, here is my guess: money. These people never joined OpenAI to "advance sciences and arts" or to "change the world". They joined OpenAI to earn money. They think they can make more money with Sam Altman in…
Really? If they work at OpenAI they are already among the highest lifetime earners on the planet. Favouring moving oneself from the top 0.5% of global lifetime earners to the top 0.1% (or whatever the percentile shift is) over the safe development of a potentially humanity-changing technology would be depraved. EDIT: I don't know why this is being downvoted. My speculation as to the average OpenAI employee's place in…
Why be surprised? This is exactly how it has always been: the rich aim to get even richer and if that brings risks or negative effects for the rest that's A-ok with them.
That's what I didn't understand about the world of the really wealthy people until I started interacting with them on a regular basis: they are still aiming to get even more wealthy, even the ones that could fund their families for the next five generations. With a few very notable exceptions.
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#673& the most drastic thing is that Ilya says he regrets what he has done and undersign the public statement. https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028
'the man who killed OpenAI' that will be hard to wash out.
Love how people are invested in OpenAI situation just like typical girls in their teens from 2000 in celebrity romance and dramas, same exaggerated vibes.
Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns
#674I don't really understanding why the workforce is swinging unambiguously behind Altman. The core of the narrative thus far is that the board fired Altman on the grounds that he was prioritising commercialisation over the not-for-profit mission of OpenAI written into the organisation's charter.[1] Given that Sam has since joined Microsoft, that seems plausible, on its face. The board may have been incompetent and shor…
Ultimately people care a lot more about their compensation, since that is what pays the bills and puts food on the table.
Since OpenAI's commercial aspects are doomed now and it is uncertain whether they can continue operations if Microsoft withholds resources and consumers switch away to alternative LLM/embeddings serrvices with more level-headed leadership, OpenAI will eventually turn into a shell of itself, which affects compensation.
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#675For me, the weirdness here is that Ilya, supposedly the brains behind GPT, is a signatory.
The sacking would never have happened without his vote; and he must have thought about it before he acted.
I hope he comes up with a proper explanation of his actions soon (not just a tweet).
Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns
#676I don't really understanding why the workforce is swinging unambiguously behind Altman. The core of the narrative thus far is that the board fired Altman on the grounds that he was prioritising commercialisation over the not-for-profit mission of OpenAI written into the organisation's charter.[1] Given that Sam has since joined Microsoft, that seems plausible, on its face. The board may have been incompetent and shor…
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Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns
#677I don't really understanding why the workforce is swinging unambiguously behind Altman. The core of the narrative thus far is that the board fired Altman on the grounds that he was prioritising commercialisation over the not-for-profit mission of OpenAI written into the organisation's charter.[1] Given that Sam has since joined Microsoft, that seems plausible, on its face. The board may have been incompetent and shor…
Maybe they believe less in the Board as it stands, and Ilya's commitments, than what Sam was pulling off.
Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns
#678I don't really understanding why the workforce is swinging unambiguously behind Altman. The core of the narrative thus far is that the board fired Altman on the grounds that he was prioritising commercialisation over the not-for-profit mission of OpenAI written into the organisation's charter.[1] Given that Sam has since joined Microsoft, that seems plausible, on its face. The board may have been incompetent and shor…
I also noticed they didn't speak much to the mission/charter. I wonder if the new entity under Sam and Greg contains any remnants of the OpenAI charter, like profit-capping? I can't imagine something like "Our primary fiduciary duty is to humanity" making it's way into the language of any Microsoft (or any bigcorp) subsidiary.
I wonder if this is the end of the non-profit/hybrid model?
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#679How do they bylaws work?
1. Voting out chairman with chairman abstaining needs only 3/5.
2. Voting out CEO then requires 3/4?
Did Ilya have to vote?
Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns
#680Earlier quoted context omitted.
This makes the old twitter look like the Wehrmacht in comparison. The old twitter did not decide to randomly detonate themselves when they were worth $80 billion. In fact they found a sucker to sell to, right before the market crashed on perpetually loss-making companies like twitter.
The benefit of having incentive-aligned board, founders, and execs. Even the clown car isn't this bad.
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