It doesn't take a genius to figure out they are losing stupid amounts of money, with no major plan to recoup their investments. Board probably took a look at updated burn-rate projections, saw that they have 6 months of runway, saw that they don't have enough GPUs, saw that Llama and Mistral and whatever other open-source models are awesome and run on personal computers, and thought to themselves - why the hell are w…
How does firing the CEO help in your scenario? Now they just burnt a tonne of trust.
Greg just quit too: https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559
Yes this is even more surprising. Why would the board annouche he would continue with the company just to have him resign 1 hour later? Clearly the board would not have written that decision without his consent.
I think it seems possible there was some incompetence here
This totally business-as-usual post from Greg Brockman happened 1 hour before the one from OpenAI: https://x.com/gdb/status/1725595967045398920 https://x.com/openai/status/1725611900262588813 How crazy is that?! (Edit 2 minutes after) .. and /there/ Greg quit!! https://x.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559
Haha TIL that Twitter has replaced the blue check mark with a yellow one.
Kara Swisher: a “misalignment” of the profit versus nonprofit adherents at the company https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725678074333635028 She also says that there will be many more top employees leaving.
That seemed to be the gist given the way the board announcement ended by reiterating their original core mission and how their main responsibility was to that mission right after saying that their issue with Altman was interference with their mission.
This totally business-as-usual post from Greg Brockman happened 1 hour before the one from OpenAI: https://x.com/gdb/status/1725595967045398920 https://x.com/openai/status/1725611900262588813 How crazy is that?! (Edit 2 minutes after) .. and /there/ Greg quit!! https://x.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559
I wonder if openai will publish more models again now?
- Cant be a personal scandal, press release would be worded much more differently - Board is mostly independent and those independent dont have equity - They talk about not being candid - this is legalese for “lying” The only major thing that could warrant something like this is Sam going behind the boards back to make a decision (or make progress on a decision) that is misaligned with the Charter. Thats the only fir…
> Cant be a personal scandal, press release would be worded much more differently I'm not sure, I agree with your point re wording but the situation with his sister that really got resolved, so I can't help but wonder if it's related. https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman...
It seems like if it was the Annie Altman accusations, they could have just paid her off. If they wanted him around and he was a creep, there are ways to make this stuff go away. AFAIK a lot of the sister's accusations were accompanied by being excluded from the father's will. Not saying she made it up, but it seems like if those grievances are bundled, there's a easy way to make that problem go away.
Earlier today, there was a tweet from Sam claiming that large tech companies are saying that young engineers right out of college are now better engineers than the older and more experienced engineers thanks to generative AI. The statement was an obvious nod of approval toward age discrimination. The tweet seems to be deleted now. Whether that statement would be reason enough to fire Sam, I don’t know—it seems unlikely—but it’s an interesting coincidence.
Someone probably already suggested this, but I haven’t seen it yet, so I’ll throw a wild speculation into the mix: I saw a comment (that I can’t find now) wondering if Sam might have been fired for copyright reasons. Pretty much all the big corpuses that are used in LLM training contain copyrighted material, but that’s not a surprise and I really don’t think they’d kick him out over that. But what if he had a team of…
GPT-3 had "books1" and "books2" among its training material and "books2" never had its actual source disclosed :https://arxiv.org/pdf/2005.14165.pdf
I don't think this issue would've flown under the radar for so long, especially with the implication that Ilya sided with the rest of the board to vote against Sam and Greg.
This is highly speculative, but minute 18:46 in the DevDay presentation [0] struck me as very awkward. Sam's AGI comment seemed off-script, and I don't think Satya liked it very much. [0] https://www.youtube.com/live/U9mJuUkhUzk?si=dyXBxi9nz6MocLKO
What AGI comment are you talking about? Nothing happened around 18:46?