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Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by pasc1878 »

gnicholas wrote: post #469
pasc1878 wrote: post #465

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You don't need iOS17 for Siri to do things like that, It hapeenes on many other versions of iOS (or in my case Homekit)

I realize it was possible before. My point is that now it's the only way for me to set the lights to be a color other than what my presets happened to be when I upgraded to iOS 17.

No I meant that Siri before iOS17 would have these problems.

It is not new to iOS 17 - well it might be for your setup but others have had these issues with earlier versions.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by icedchai »

chatmasta wrote: post #670
icedchai wrote: post #602

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There is definitely something buggy going on there. It took 2 attempts for it to install for me! No errors, it just stopped installing somewhere around 90%. Plenty of free disks space and RAM.

Are you sure it actually stopped installing? When I installed XCode for the first time a few months ago, there was a 20-30 minute period where it was completely silent. Ultimately I was able to tail some syslog from the app store daemon that indicated it was actually doing something (downloading dependencies and validating their signatures, IIRC). But I almost restarted the computer thinking it wasn't working.

It definitely stopped installing! It was showing the "old" version in the App Store updates, and I was able to start the install again.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by icedchai »

saagarjha wrote: post #664
icedchai wrote: post #602

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There is definitely something buggy going on there. It took 2 attempts for it to install for me! No errors, it just stopped installing somewhere around 90%. Plenty of free disks space and RAM.

Are you using a XIP to install?

No, I was using the App Store "update"...

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by jd3 »

sergiomattei wrote: post #668
jd3 wrote: post #498

Sonoma UI feels great. I'm also excited that they finally fixed Quartz Debug — the "Enable Vertical Sync" option finally works again when disabled. My mouse feels snappier and there's noticeably less delay when moving windows around.

Quartz Debug. That’s a name I haven’t heard in a while.

It's still being updated and included in the "Additional Tools for Xcode 15"[0] and is the only way to disable vsync/"Beam Sync" at the os level using Apple tooling, afaik.

Beamoff[1]/beamsync.py[2] are good 3rd part solutions, though.

I use my m1 mbp in clamshell mode connected to a 75hz 1920x1080 ips all day every day, so until I can buy a monitor that supports adaptive sync, the reduction in latency that disabling vsync brings is worth it to me.

[0]: https://developer.apple.com/download/all/?q=Additional%20Too... [1]: https://github.com/JasF/beamoff [2]: https://gist.github.com/pudquick/2ab183707545413ae9c6#file-b...

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by ghusto »

lxgr wrote: post #167
ghusto wrote: post #160

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> Doesn't that require breaking glass in Secure Boot these days You mean turning off system integrity protection? No. I have both ext4 and NTFS from Paragon, and didn't have to do that.

Not SIP, but you do need to reboot and change some things in recoveryOS involving Secure Boot (or however Apple's equivalent is called), right? https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple-silicon/inst...

Not here. I do have an intel CPU though, maybe it's different with an Apple CPU?

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by lxgr »

ghusto wrote: post #675
lxgr wrote: post #167

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Not SIP, but you do need to reboot and change some things in recoveryOS involving Secure Boot (or however Apple's equivalent is called), right? https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple-silicon/inst...

Not here. I do have an intel CPU though, maybe it's different with an Apple CPU?

Yes, this is an M1/M2 thing only (at least for now).

Apple's secure boot process differs significantly between Intel and Apple CPU.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by racl101 »

cglong wrote: post #188

So it goes... Warning: You are using macOS 11. We (and Apple) do not provide support for this old version. It is expected behaviour that some formulae will fail to build in this old version. It is expected behaviour that Homebrew will be buggy and slow. Do not create any issues about this on Homebrew's GitHub repositories. Do not create any issues even if you think this message is unrelated. Any opened issues will be…

Oof. I think I gotta switch to Linux. I already loathe brew.

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Post by IIsi50MHz »

mfontani wrote: post #219

I hope it finally sped up the slooow animation when switching spaces... but am not holding my breath...

If you're not concerned about losing other animations, you can enable the Reduced Motion setting in Accessibility preferences. It completely removes that animation.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by IIsi50MHz »

signal_space wrote: post #53
kstrauser wrote: post #13

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Huh. I'm using it without problems. Any chance you're using multiple Safari profiles (new feature in Sonoma) and it's not enabled in the profile you have active?

ill double check but i mentioned it on the forums and they suggested i use orion https://kagifeedback.org/d/1708-inconsistently-redirects-to-...

I tried to use Orion, but when I tried to make a new tab group so I could close one of my windows and come back to all its tabs later, Orion made a new /empty/ tab group and closed all the tabs in the window. Worse, none of those tabs were recoverable with Cmd-Shift-T. I had to go back through ~3 days of History reopening things, discovering they weren't the right things, reopening more things…

I went bacb to Safari after I couldn't find an Orion way to make a new tab group without destroying the current window's tabs.

In Safari, could have made bookmarks for these tabs, I guess, but Safari doesn't give me an obvious indication of whether the current tab already has a bookmark. So, my Safari bookmarks sometimes have duplicates because I forgot I'd already made one and didn't burrow though the Bookmarks menu to check. So, Safari tab groups are more useful to me than bookmarks for anything that's part of an unfinished project/idea.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by seec »

MilaM wrote: post #614
tzs wrote: post #606

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By upgrades you mean upgrades that change the major OS version, right? Those both should still be getting security updates. Ventura just updated to 13.6 this morning, Monterey updated to 12.7 a few days ago, and Big Sur updated to 11.17.10 a little over two weeks ago. Big Sur is expected to stop getting security updates in a couple months. Monterey will probably get them until sometime in the last quarter of 2024, wh…

Indeed, and I hope Ventura will get at least two years of security fixes. It's still my impression, that the 2017 Macs (sold by Apple well into 2018), should have made the cut for Sonoma. I don't even care about any of the new features. I'm more interested in bug and security fixes. So hopefully I have more time to hunt for the perfect display that can adequately replace the 5K 27" of my current setup. And I know the…

The lack of an iMac 5K replacement is basically the reason why I'm preparing to leave Macs and the whole apple ecosystem behind. As far as I'm concerned, when the main use of your computer is focused around text, because of Apple technological choice when it comes to scaling for HiDPI display you need a 5k27" display if you don't to want compromise in macOS. Otherwise with a cheaper 4k display your choices are between a much reduced workspace or get constant font blurriness. Windows doesn't have this problem and I say that as someone who has historically prefered how macOS handle fonts (still do but only on capable hardware).

The way I see things Apple is completely responsible for this problem and should also be responsible for providing a decent solution at a reasonable price.

But currently the cheapest option (Basic M2 Mac Mini + Studio Display + Keyboard & Mouse) 2642€ instead of the previous 2100€ (inflation is unhinged in Apple land) and on top of being much more expensive for a way more locked down configuration (previously RAM was freely upgradable and SSD upgrade was involved but doable) it is not faster in a way that match the price increase or even better than what Intel has been doing. In fact the truly faster is mostly single thread performance (42% better), multicore is a just bit faster (21%) and GPU is actually slower (-14%). In other words : for much more money you gain a bit not in way that is change what it possible to do with the computer but you also lose in a way that make some things you could do before worse (gaming and generally). That is on a

Lifelong customer, got my first own mac at 15, which was an ibook and also my first personal computer at all. I also bought the second gen ipod (first gen didn't get much availability in france) and even imported the first gen iPhone

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