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Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by anonporridge »

sircastor wrote: post #642
flippy_flops wrote: post #45

I am absolutely baffled that Apple (and others) haven't updated their smart assistants with a competitive LLM. With Apple's privacy shtick and their mobile GPU efficiency, I was convinced we'd see something today. What am I missing?

LLMs can't guarantee factuality. They're great for the conversational component, but they're a seriously bad and responding with reliably factual information. More important that its ability to deal with complexity would be an assistant's ability to respond to a request correctly.

Nothing and no one can guarantee factuality. That's a red herring.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by jq-r »

baby wrote: post #647
gnicholas wrote: post #26

IMO, this was a pretty weak announcement. They spent so long talking about environmental stuff, like getting rid of leather, that it felt like they were trying to pad the presentation to reach a reasonable length. There were a few new things (more optical zoom, slightly smaller bezels), but these were all leaked in advance. I was also disappointed to hear that the satellite stuff is limited to 2 years. Is it going to…

And no folding iPhone :(

The only iPhone I'm actually looking forward to. I'm sure they'll produce one, but will take a few years still.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by crote »

the_other wrote: post #278
bombcar wrote: post #11

Honestly for me the best part is the USB-C. Every year it's a new camera, new whatever, but USB-C is going to mean I can get rid of all these lightning cables. Not increasing the price is nice, I guess. Will have to buy more USB-C cables, though. (Technically the low highest end phone is higher, but higher spec, too). It comes with one USB-C to USB-C charging cable - not sure if it is a data cable, also. Pre-order Fr…

> It comes with one USB-C to USB-C charging cable - not sure if it is a data cable, also. This is why USB-C is a user-hostile spec.

No, it is not. According to the spec, all C-C cables transfer data, even if only at USB 2.0 speeds. It is not the spec's fault that some cheap knockoff brands violate the spec to save a few pennies.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by anonporridge »

bmitc wrote: post #663

> A huge leap forward for iPhone with a gorgeous new design The reality distortion field Apple projects is always impressive.

I wonder if they realize yet how many people are laughing at them.

Apple is rapidly becoming low status as a critical mass of people catch on to their game.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by palla89 »

sharkjacobs wrote: post #604

> So the only compelling reason to upgrade from the 14 is... Your brain has been rotted by product marketing and tech consumer hype fanaticism. If your phone is a year old then the only reasons to buy a new one are - you make a living developing software for that phone - you make a living writing about that phone - you are a hobbyist or enthusiast who loves phones and wants to spend disposable income on them

Thank you, because you just took me on the Planet Earth: I’m using a 14 Pro and I upgraded from a XS and the change was impressing. Now… I was just being victim of the hype :D better save these money!

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by rrrrrrrrrrrryan »

sharkjacobs wrote: post #604

> So the only compelling reason to upgrade from the 14 is... Your brain has been rotted by product marketing and tech consumer hype fanaticism. If your phone is a year old then the only reasons to buy a new one are - you make a living developing software for that phone - you make a living writing about that phone - you are a hobbyist or enthusiast who loves phones and wants to spend disposable income on them

Well, it's a tool. It's not just a computing environment that runs applications.

For people that don't work in software, the biggest change here is the camera upgrades. This thing has 8x optical zoom and can record 3D video.

Many people use their phone camera as part of their job, and many more people as part of their hobbies.

For some of these people it's worth the cost to upgrade, especially if their current phone is a couple generations behind.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by lxgr »

rootusrootus wrote: post #212
SirMaster wrote: post #184

I understand why they did it. But just my perspective on it, I will have to replace all my lightning cables with usb-c, and the usb-c ecosystem seems like a nightmare to me from what I have seen. This would be my first usb-c device.

This is why the iPhone was nearly the last Apple device to switch to USB-C. Plenty of people will be irritated at having to buy bunch of new cables, and they've been accumulating Lightning cables for a decade. And unlike something like Micro USB, lightning cables don't often wear out. But it is better to finally make the jump. I've never been unhappy with Lightning, but almost everything else I own has now switched t…

That makse sense: USB micro-B has the part that wears out (i.e. the spring making the connection) in the cable; Lightning has it in the port.

Although I haven't really had a Lightning port fail on me yet, having the component more likely to eventually break in the cable rather than the device makes a lot of sense to me.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by bambax »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #456
bambax wrote: post #151

> USB-C is going to mean I can get rid of all these lightning cables Bought a Motorola G6 in 2018 for €199. It takes "fantastic" photos, and came in a "stunning new" (!?) color of black(ish). It's pretty much indestructible, runs Firefox with uBlock Origin, and it's "better for the environment" because every year you don't buy a new phone, the environment is happy. It also has USB-C, and a 3.5 jack.

My G6 has lately been getting extremely laggy. 8 seconds to launch Firefox + uBlock, 4 seconds to get a keyboard after tapping the address bar; I don't use it much for more than texting or calling people, but it's a bit ridiculous. And there used to be plenty of space on the 32 GB built-in storage (and there's always abundant space on my 256 GB uSD for photos and media) but even with fewer apps installed now there's…

No. I don't have many apps (very few in fact) but did not notice anything speed-wise. The plastic cover tends to get dirty and is hard to clean, but I can live with it.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by mr_toad »

flippy_flops wrote: post #45

I am absolutely baffled that Apple (and others) haven't updated their smart assistants with a competitive LLM. With Apple's privacy shtick and their mobile GPU efficiency, I was convinced we'd see something today. What am I missing?

If I ask Siri what the weather is going to be I want a deterministic response, not some hallucinated answer based on some weather blog from 2020.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by WheatMillington »

nowooski wrote: post #342

It's pretty wild that Apple has held prices down the last few years in the face of elevated inflation. I decided to calculate the inflation-adjusted price of every iPhone ever, and the 15 line are some of the most affordable (in 2023 dollars). Full table and charts are here: https://www.perfectrec.com/posts/iPhone15-price But the take aways are: - iPhone 15 is cheapest base model since the OG iPhone in 2007 - 15 Plus…

Technology always gets cheaper, pretty wild to think otherwise.
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