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Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by mdavidn »

llm_nerd wrote: post #102

It's interesting that HN is completely overloaded right now...with people coming to announce how unimpressed they are and how it isn't for them. The displays in this device are crazy . I honestly didn't think they'd be able to put together a value proposition, but I think they legitimately did. It's super expensive, and some of the cost of the device seems kind of silly (if I heard correctly, the display on the front…

> if I heard correctly, the display on the front is 3d and gives different perspectives based upon the viewers

This effect probably relies on a lenticular lens overlaid on an OLED screen. This was similar to the method used by the Nintendo 3DS to create a stereoscopic image without glasses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenticular_printing

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by chpmrc »

llm_nerd wrote: post #102

It's interesting that HN is completely overloaded right now...with people coming to announce how unimpressed they are and how it isn't for them. The displays in this device are crazy . I honestly didn't think they'd be able to put together a value proposition, but I think they legitimately did. It's super expensive, and some of the cost of the device seems kind of silly (if I heard correctly, the display on the front…

> It's interesting that HN is completely overloaded right now...with people coming to announce how unimpressed they are and how it isn't for them.

Agreed, polarization is a good sign that this is going to make an impact. Ironically "unimpressed" is communicated by a lack of response, not by a negative one (which more likely indicates people's beliefs are being challenged). The only way this would be a flop is if they shipped something really buggy and worse than the competition (which at the time will be the Meta Quest 3). Otherwise...

> it's going to be a hit. HN is going to be swamped with "How I used Vision Pro to..." posts when it comes out.

100%!

> did they talk about using it as a display for a Mac? I'd love to use a real keyboard mouse interacting with flexible Mac displays.

Looks like it's going to be a standalone device that you can pair with a magic keyboard and trackpad. Considering it ships with an M2 I expect iPad/Air level performance (assuming the spatial stuff is solely handled by R1). I can totally see myself using it as "the one device" (pun intended) and get rid of my Macbook, assuming there's an easy way to share content with someone who's next to me, e.g. on my iPhone.

I can't wait for it to be publicly available.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by Melatonic »

mikenew wrote: post #371

I find it pretty hilarious that VR started off as a product for gamers, designed by gamers, and funded by gamers. And even before it made it to market, it was bought up by Facebook who said "no no no, forget games, we're going to give you experiences ". And it's been a parade of uninteresting, nobody-actually-wanted-this products and ideas ever since. By far the most compelling things you can do in VR are games. Modd…

Seriously - VR gaming was awesome years ago if you had the hardware and continues to be awesome.

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Post by yumraj »

llm_nerd wrote: post #102

It's interesting that HN is completely overloaded right now...with people coming to announce how unimpressed they are and how it isn't for them. The displays in this device are crazy . I honestly didn't think they'd be able to put together a value proposition, but I think they legitimately did. It's super expensive, and some of the cost of the device seems kind of silly (if I heard correctly, the display on the front…

> But it's going to be a hit. HN is going to be swamped with "How I used Vision Pro to..." posts when it comes out.

I'm not going to predict whether or not this is going to be a hit, I just don't know.

However, remember when Google Glass came out there were tons of these "how I use" posts and I remember people even changing their LinkedIn profile pictures to be with Google Glass. And, we all know how that turned out.

So, early posts by self-styled influencers or wannabe's are in no way predictor of success, or failure, of a product.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by liendolucas »

paxys wrote: post #182

The hardware is no doubt impressive, as expected, but I just can't see myself in any of the situations they keep showing in VR/AR demos. Does someone really sit on their couch, put on a massive headset, and scroll through their vacation photos? Does someone watch an entire 2+ hour movie with a sweaty headset strapped to them (and plugged into a socket) instead of on a couch with their family/friends? Would I want to…

I got very similar thoughts... I think the most promising future of this tech are simulations of all kinds: let's virtually open a human body and study it, let's disassemble an engine to see how each part works, let's project how a city should be wise-designed to avoid transport issues, etc.

Even most of these things can be also appreciated using regular tech. Why should Apple succeed when most of other companies have not succeeded (Occulus, Hololens, HTC Vive)? Putting aside not so stunning technology, people actually didn't get engaged with the tech so much.

I had the opportunity to use a version of the Occulus some years ago and found them pretty impressive, but even though at the time I saw it like a cool gadget only to be enjoyed for a very limited amount of time.

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Post by cromka »

emoII wrote: post #64

"The kids are playing, better record a spacial moment" was one of the most dystopic things I've seen in a long time. Same with the ad at the end, with the father wearing it around his kids. I feel like the interface demands strapping something this futuristic over your head is just... wrong. Perhaps a few years of refining the tech can lead to something that feels more natural

To me the dystopian moment was when they revealed that an AI-generated rendition of one’s face will be presented during video conversations. We were worried already about the photographs taken with phones no longer being real, this brings the issue to a whole new level.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by thomk »

When the iPad came out I thought to myself "Who needs a big iPhone? also, god what a dumb name, 'iPad'. Apple really missed the mark on that one." Welp, I was wrong then. I don't personally see myself using this but that doesn't mean it is not going to be successful. I'll just wait and see.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by zmmmmm »

saovq wrote: post #29

Apple really just obsoleted Meta's entire product vision, this is scary good.

Seems outlandish ... a $3500 product can't obsolete a $299 one. It doesn't look like Apple has any intention of attacking the low end here.

I'd almost say that Apple is doing Meta a favour because they are doing a much better job at making the case for devices like the Quest Pro and Quest 3 than Meta seems to be able to do. A lot of people will turn to these when they find they want in on the hype but they can't afford the Apple version.

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