The question no one is asking, how much money are they saving by kicking out the moochers? I'm not surprised if a significant number of Netflix users are sharing their accounts with others. If this move ends up saving them money, then... sucks, but it's understandable. The big problem here is they've trained users they can get away with this until recently, hence all the complaints.
Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing
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#672Earlier quoted context omitted.
Users need to accept that Netflix was never going to be profitable that way. We had a taste of that amount of content at that price, but it simply can't be economically done.
Consumers do not exist so that companies can be profitable, and are not required to accept anything of the sort. What a vampiric, corporate lickspittle point of view.
Generally a enterprise that is not profitable is using more resources than the value it creates and as a result the economy is better off if it goes under.
This isn't just "things only deserve to exist if it makes someone money" this is "our system systemically discourages wasteful use of resources".
Actors and such need to be paid. Their labor is a scare resource so if they are doing something that's not worth more than their time, they should generally be doing something else. If we all behaved otherwise society would slowly die as wealth got consumed to zero instead of increased with time.
Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing
#673Netflix: ”You get two parallel streams with your family. Family means trust and password sharing.“ Customers: “Farewell pirating. We pay a fair flat and it is automatically shared between Netflix and artists. Great!“ Netflix: “We increase the flat permanently. And we have now competitors and doesn’t over anymore all relevant content (e.g. Star Trek Picard, Expanse, Disney). How about ruining it and blocking family me…
I've got two houses across two states where any one us (four) can be at any time. If they start blocking based on IP geo-location, I'll drop them immediately.
They will. That’s basically what their new policy is blocking.
Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing
#674Netflix: ”You get two parallel streams with your family. Family means trust and password sharing.“ Customers: “Farewell pirating. We pay a fair flat and it is automatically shared between Netflix and artists. Great!“ Netflix: “We increase the flat permanently. And we have now competitors and doesn’t over anymore all relevant content (e.g. Star Trek Picard, Expanse, Disney). How about ruining it and blocking family me…
I've got two houses across two states where any one us (four) can be at any time. If they start blocking based on IP geo-location, I'll drop them immediately.
> money for two houses
> no money for separate accounts for family members
Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing
#675Earlier quoted context omitted.
Consumers do not exist so that companies can be profitable, and are not required to accept anything of the sort. What a vampiric, corporate lickspittle point of view.
Generally a enterprise that is not profitable is using more resources than the value it creates and as a result the economy is better off if it goes under. This isn't just "things only deserve to exist if it makes someone money" this is "our system systemically discourages wasteful use of resources". Actors and such need to be paid. Their labor is a scare resource so if they are doing something that's not worth more…
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#676Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even more savvy people use full automation with Usenet and torrents as backups.
What does "full automation" mean in the context of media acquisition?
The arrs are sweet. Plex serves media. Prowlarr maintains a list of torrent sites to use. Radarr for movies, sonarr for tv, and lidarr for music monitor things and auto download, move, rename, etc., and are tied into prowlarr for where to get them. Some examples, every new Minions movie or every new episode of The Witcher or every new album from IVE you can have auto download once available and get moved to the correct Plex library folder with the correct filename, and you can set up metadata requirements like size, bitrate, etc. for those the downloads. Overseerr has a slick ui for discovering media and requesting downloads; you can have it set up to use plex accounts where you or other users logged in with their plex account can request something, and it reaches out to the correct arr for that to do its thing according to the *arr settings for that media.
What's everything is set up, imagine a Netflix where you can also request something not available and get that added in the time it takes to download in the exact resolution, language, subs, etc., that you want with no more than a search and a click.
Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing
#677Netflix: ”You get two parallel streams with your family. Family means trust and password sharing.“ Customers: “Farewell pirating. We pay a fair flat and it is automatically shared between Netflix and artists. Great!“ Netflix: “We increase the flat permanently. And we have now competitors and doesn’t over anymore all relevant content (e.g. Star Trek Picard, Expanse, Disney). How about ruining it and blocking family me…
I've got two houses across two states where any one us (four) can be at any time. If they start blocking based on IP geo-location, I'll drop them immediately.
Hulu Live TV is even better regarding location. I have it and had Google Fiber and AT&T fiber at the same address. If I watched live on one it would report on the other than the home location changed and it only gives you so many of those for free before they prevent you from viewing the content (Live TV) you pay them for. So it's only IP and no taking into consideration geo-location at all.
Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing
#678Netflix: ”You get two parallel streams with your family. Family means trust and password sharing.“ Customers: “Farewell pirating. We pay a fair flat and it is automatically shared between Netflix and artists. Great!“ Netflix: “We increase the flat permanently. And we have now competitors and doesn’t over anymore all relevant content (e.g. Star Trek Picard, Expanse, Disney). How about ruining it and blocking family me…
I've got two houses across two states where any one us (four) can be at any time. If they start blocking based on IP geo-location, I'll drop them immediately.
I don’t have a static ip-address. I am curious to see how they will deal with that.
Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing
#679Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you want to time gate your episodes with your friends you're still welcome to coordinate that with them. Lots of couples do this too ("Don't watch until we can do it together") but personally, no matter how excited I am for a show, if a streaming platform withholds episodes so that they can better manage social media and stretch out advertising I'll just wait until the whole thing is out before I even start watchi…
> If you want to time gate your episodes with your friends you're still welcome to coordinate that with them. That feels somewhat naive. People don't only belong to one friendship group. > if a streaming platform withholds episodes so that they can better manage social media and stretch out advertising I'll just wait until the whole thing is out before I even start watching. Sounds like it works out for everyone, the…
> Sounds like it works out for everyone, then: those that want to watch and discuss week-to-week can, those that don't can wait until the end of the season and watch all at once.
I do this, and then frequently forget about the show at all. Then never watch it.
Cancelled netflix not too long ago. They should never have reminded me to check the view stats of my family.
Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing
#680Well done, españoles! I hope we Argentinians also have the strength to say F-U to Netflix over their dumb policies.
From TFA:
> "Globally, more than 100 million people use an account they don’t pay for, according to Netflix."
"They don't pay" is one way to see it. Another way to look at this is that a group of people (wider than Netflix would like) are paying for these accounts. This used to be a cool feature of Netflix! They shouldn't take it down (within reason), otherwise downloading pirated shows becomes way more attractive once again.