Hmm. Seems a bit harsh and premature… maybe I missed some news that would warrant such a reaction.
Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT
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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT
#672OpenAI has now blocked access to ChatGPT in Italy, if you try to reach https://chat.openai.com you're going to be greeted with 403 Access denied.
I wonder if they considered using the 451 status code.
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Italy is definitely succeeding at protecting its citizens from entering the 21st century. Let’s be real here. Italy is a dinosaur and scared shitless of change. ChatGPT, lab grown meat, immigration, the list will only get longer.
Not that the US has a positive record on immigration. There's no wall in Sicily, at least. Keep on gifting your data to the megacorps, I am sure they care about you.
>Not that the US has a positive record on immigration. There's no wall in Sicily, at least.
You’re kidding, right? You have a massive sea acting as a wall against the undesirables. The US has more legal immigrants than any other country in the world.
No one thinks megacorps care about them, it’s just a business transaction. If I didn’t find what I’m getting in return valuable, I wouldn’t participate. This is how it works outside of nanny states.
Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT
#674This is great. With every step forward, with every ounce of precedent that is created, more people will see that they aren’t wrong to be worried or want regulation. Really nice to have a bit of good news finally. Maybe that bastard Sam Altman will come to his senses soon.
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I work part time at a pizzeria. If you do this try to remember when you order food for delivery. It has become a problem with our drivers. The customer doesn’t answer the phone and our drivers spend 10 minutes trying to contact the customer (delaying the next customers order). Eventually, our drivers give up and the customer (now angry) calls back an hour later demanding their food.
I suppose they could communicate through the app which was used to order the food and/or using whatsapp.
Who orders pizza through an overpriced app?
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> How is this specific to OpenAI? it's not, that's why there are consent thingies on websites (e.g. when you could not sign up for instagram as a minor). I don't know what strange thing the regulator found in chatgpt, but it's pretty standard.
> it's not, that's why there are consent thingies on websites Are there consent thingies on Google and Wikipedia? > when you could not sign up for instagram as a minor Sign up to post stuff. There are normally no "consent thingies" for looking. If a parent doesn't want a minor to look at stuff they should either not give them access or limit it.
ChatGPT is restricted to 13+, but they don't actually enforce it, that's what the objection is about, as far as I understand.
Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT
#677this alongside the ban on lab grown meat[0] and the recent proposed ban to use english words in government documents[1] is just proof on how antiquated and backward looking the government is. so glad i left almost 10 years ago. [EDIT] the privacy regulator is independent from the government but elected by the parliament every 7 years. nevertheless this is a testament on how in general, regardless of political party,…
You can keep your insects and lab meat for yourself. I think they are doing a great job banning lab meat and insects flour... If they really did. Because last time I checked I read they were just displaying insects flour on a special shelf, not a ban. It is neither "antiquated" nor "idiotic", I value good, tasty and healthy food, in that regards I think Italians and French are alike.
Meanwhile I will keep eating Italian Ferrero Kinder Schoko Bons, that always contained insects
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> Italy has great engineers Does it? Ferrari's become a real joke in recent years. I do fully buy the bureaucrats being threatened by automation theory though. > this is obviously a dumb move It's also a dumb move by OpenAI to pretend they can get away with not processing data in the EU like any other service has to. Just spin up a few instances, what's the big deal? It's just complete arrogance on their part. GDPR i…
"GDPR is not an optional suggestion." No it's some dumb fad. If you are not in Europe just disregard it. You don't have to respect Republic of Peru laws either.
It's law... you cannot disregard it if you do business there. Feel free to give it a shot and test it out, though. The agency in charge has been having a field day so far, though primarily with the big tech companies - https://www.tessian.com/blog/biggest-gdpr-fines-2020/
Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT
#679A few facts
- the privacy commissioner is 78
- he doesn't have any tech background, he's a law academician
- the privacy commission office's home page still has a fax number on their front page, as of this morning
- the commissioner boasted in TV that he signed Musk's AI temp ban letter
- the official reason of the ban is that 12-year-old kids could potentially use the AI service, and OpenAI should instead filter them out
- no evidence that ChatGPT is bad for 12 years old is given
- no study on how many kids below 13 use the site, in relation to how many people overall in Italy
- he acted alone, instead as part of a commission, because he claims it was urgent
- no matter what, he is not liable for his actions by Italian law
Connect the dots anyway you like. I chose the following narrative:
At 78 he doesn't give a :poop:, he doesn't like progress because he's a boomer and abused his office to make a political statement because no one can touch him.
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Government doesn't ban books because some of them are inappropriate for minors though. They let parents handle this.
It does ban the sale of videogames and movies though. Via the "age rating" mechanism.
Government isn't involved in that. Game and movie ratings are completely private industry practices. Your selection of distribution channels will be reduced if you don't go through the ratings process, but the government won't stop you.