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SATs don't measure much, they mostly measure how familiar you are with the structure of the test.
As an Asian person, I think it's a cultural thing. There is this old joke about how even if you are a one-in-a-million person, there are still 8000 of "you"s to choose from; how does one chose who to pick, if there aren't positions for all of them? So how do you make it "fair"? Since of the number of seats are limited, so imagine if the cut-off for the last seat is for someone who is in the 90.3765335th percentile, l…
I would do a very very selective 1st round, eg a college with an intake of 1000 would admit 10 people who are special in some way, so you can get that kid that is head and shoulders above everyone else. For the other 990 spots, you make a minimum bar of achievement (lots of As, high score, whatever) and put everyone who meets it in a lottery.
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> these elite schools would change that criteria, because the criteria are a means to an end. That’s a nice opinion you have. Do you have any evidence to support this? The case against Harvard showed us pretty much everything behind the curtain. If there is any systemic bias against any group, that must be the best kept secret in the world. Check out this article: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/10/27/opinion/harvar…
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/us/harvard-asian-enrollme... "Harvard consistently rated Asian-American applicants lower than others on traits like “positive personality,” likability, courage, kindness and being “widely respected,” according to an analysis of more than 160,000 student records filed Friday by a group representing Asian-American students in a lawsuit against the university."
Imho, this article is an example of how the NYT has gone off the rails with their agenda-based spin on reporting.
The article flat out says the following:
“Harvard said that the plaintiffs’ expert, Peter Arcidiacono, a Duke University economist, had mined the data to his advantage by taking out applicants who were favored because they were legacies, athletes, the children of staff and the like, including Asian-Americans.”
All of those can influence the personal rating positively.
This lawsuit is an attempt by anti-affirmative action people to end affirmative action. They are using Asians as a figurative cudgel to beat other minorities, and this saddens me.
Fwiw, I think affirmative action is not without flaws and could be improved (e.g., I struggle to see why Asians aren’t given affirmative action status at these universities similar to how Asians have this status with the federal government — there has been and still is oppression and discrimination against Asian Americans), but I think there are large swathes of the country that are still in favor of this policy.
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What the hell. When you say caste based do you mean something unspoken or is it explicitly legislated? Mind-blowing.
Discrimination against lower castes is very real. There are quota to somewhat compensate for this. Maybe you interpreted it as there being quota for each caste?
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Did you not read the part where the ‘aristocracy’ pays way more tuition money for their one child? If you weren’t so focused on class warfare, you’d realize all of that extra money can be used for other things such as scholarships for families who wouldn’t be able to afford a university education for their children. The people you’re referring to wouldn’t be able to afford tuition before the rate hikes, and they sure…
That money could just as easily pay for scholarships at public colleges. Why is it important that they donate to generational private schools instead of public?
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/us/harvard-asian-enrollme... "Harvard consistently rated Asian-American applicants lower than others on traits like “positive personality,” likability, courage, kindness and being “widely respected,” according to an analysis of more than 160,000 student records filed Friday by a group representing Asian-American students in a lawsuit against the university."
… yet somehow a district court found no reasonable claim of discrimination, and the appellate court upheld that finding. Imho, this article is an example of how the NYT has gone off the rails with their agenda-based spin on reporting. The article flat out says the following: “Harvard said that the plaintiffs’ expert, Peter Arcidiacono, a Duke University economist, had mined the data to his advantage by taking out app…
"This lawsuit is an attempt by anti-affirmative action people to end affirmative action"
That's an ad hominem attack that does not address the claims on merit.
I personally think fairly evident that Harvard et al are essentially attempting to address systemic inequalities in access, while also maintaining a large pool of legacy (ie donor) admits. Whether or not this is "fair" or "unfair" is actually not something I have a strong opinion about. What I do find abhorrent is the unwillingness to admit that's what they are doing, choosing instead to claim that asian kids have a harder time getting in because they have worse personalities.
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Harvard has an endowment worth more than $50B. Harvard grads are the ruling class of our nation, and their system of legacy admissions mean it’s essentially a hereditary system of nobility. This endowment isn’t taxed, and generates huge returns. Its one thing to defend poor kids getting a leg up with federal grants, but I’m not sure the ones who pay for it are the same ones who benefit, and the system seems to be eno…
I noticed you didn't come close to answering the question. Complaining that people who aren't you are making money isn't a good look, and certainly isn't a sound basis for federal public policy. You indicated a problem with the way federal funds are spent. What section of what federal statute should be changed? In what way should it be changed?
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The thing is, education doesn't scale infinitely like that. The bigger the class size the less attention you get from the professor, the less individualized the education is, the more generic it has to be, the lower the common denominator, etc. And lots of colleges are known for their teachers. You can't always just hire another identical teacher: good ones are rare. At elite schools, they are often even famous and i…
Sure, but when the US population grows by 10% (for example), Shouldn't there be a ~10% increase in elite teachers, allowing for elite colleges to expand hiring by 10%?
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Learning disabilities are a type of neurodevelopmental disorder in which a student that is of otherwise average of above average intelligence struggle with a specific type of material, commonly reading (dyslexia) or basic math (dyscalculia). The most effective treatment is early remediation, in which students in primary education are identified and given extra lessons and exercises on their weakness to help make them…
That is not how it works in the real world. Affluent parents go doctor shopping to get learning disability diagnoses for their children. This has been going on for decades (I saw it with some of my classmates when I was in school) and the friendly doctors are well known in those circles. I am not claiming that learning disabilities aren't real or that students who legitimately have those conditions don't deserve some…
Not because I don't believe it but if these things are well known, why isn't some clickbait journalist all over it?