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Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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/cries in an at-will state/

Unions. Not just for fancy Europeans and factory workers. If your colleagues gets fired for some bs reason you and your other colleagues can stand for each other by striking.

Unless some of your colleagues don't go along with it and are willing to train recruits enough to keep the ship afloat. Unions: the anti-anti-trust weapon in the war to win the balance of power.

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Twitter is already improved IMHO: The "sign in or sign up" nag screen is gone for me!

I looked at Musk's feed and it did not appear, but just now clicked on one of the other Twitter links in this thread and got hit with it almost immediately. Maybe the change is still being rolled out? Maybe it was just a fluke? Maybe it doesn't appear on certain people's feeds for one reason or another?

I am still seeing it too, looked at Musk’s feed while being logged out. I am in Europe.

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I’m the opposite. Never was a Musk fan but now that I see him trying to reform twitter I’m very impressed he’s willing to take so much flak for such a direly needed goal.

He doesn’t seem to be “reforming” Twitter, he seems to be trying desperately to recoup his lost investment. This wasn’t needed and will be looked upon with embarrassment by him and all of tech in a decade.

> After engineers, some of Twitter’s highest-paid employees work in sales, where several earn more than $300,000, according to documents viewed by The Post.

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That’s not at all what happened. In fact, my bet is Musk will find out shortly, if not already, that Twitter’s bans made a ton of sense and were extremely pragmatic, and had nothing at all to do with politics.

It is what happened: https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformat... And they had everything to do with politics. It’s interesting to see people cheer when things go their sides way and then do contortions to rationalize when they don’t.

Do you deny that adversary nation-states are using social media and our culture of anonymous, unfettered "speech" to promote known lies and divisions in this country?

You either deny that, or think that absolutely nothing should be done about it by social media sites or our union of the people, known as government.

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It is what happened: https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformat... And they had everything to do with politics. It’s interesting to see people cheer when things go their sides way and then do contortions to rationalize when they don’t.

That article has nothing to do with what I said. Twitter is not banning people for posting conservative viewpoints.

You said that’s not what happened in reply to me, and I cited that it did happen. I’m just backing up my own assertions, nothing to do with you.

And they certainly banned plenty of conservatives for their views. It was just first framed as “misinformation” and then banned. Examples include Covid skepticism, Hunters laptop, and honestly a litany more.

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6 months ago it was all painted (maybe seemingly, though, by prior executives who weren't speaking for Musk) as if this wouldn't be a big deal for employees, which to me makes this idea that people are being rapidly fired "for cause" after a suddenly-imposed weekend work shift deadline extra shitty :/. (Even if I do sometimes claim that Twitter is incompetent as an organization or bloated with idle staff, these are h…

My guess is Musk wants to punish them for making him go through with the deal _he agreed to_. He doesn't want to own Twitter and he's making them feel it.

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Did Twitter already file a WARN act notice about the layoffs? If not, how can it be justified under that?

Correct me if I’m wrong but it all really depends on the contract. I understand there are labor laws in place but if the person agreed to something then I don’t think California law can do much.

"You're honor, the so called victim agreed to be murdered by me"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_agreement

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Sign ups were directly correlated to revenue, at least in my case, and likely most others, such as in @joegahona's comment about publishing. That is to say, the customer satisfaction decrease in popups did not decrease revenue, and that is assuming there even was a satisfaction decrease at all; again, most technical users vastly overestimate how many people actually care about popups, most non-tech people simply clic…

This may be true in the short term but eventually more of these decisions begin to accumulate and cause more dissatisfaction. Each one on its own has barely any impact on the bottom line, it's just one more cut among a hundred cuts. In the end you end up with a product that is overall annoying to use. And the whole time you could be going along, measuring each decision and thinking that you're doing okay and no mista…

Agreed, just following data can be a dangerous path. You have to build things because they’re the right thing to build. You need a cohesive vision not scattershot A-B tests. Unless you only care about short term profit, of course.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. That’s why the Facebooks die and the Apples and Googles last.

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> Even laying off 25% of the workers would be hard to justify at this point. It wouldn't because we're in a downturn and Twitter was already planning layoffs.

>Twitter was already planning layoffs. Their CEO told them no layoffs were planned in the immediate future just a few months ago.

Every CEO I've seen oversee layoffs has maintained that no layoffs were planned until the very millisecond they're announced. I think of CEOs like I think of the WH press secretary - paid to propagandize.

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Did Twitter already file a WARN act notice about the layoffs? If not, how can it be justified under that?

Correct me if I’m wrong but it all really depends on the contract. I understand there are labor laws in place but if the person agreed to something then I don’t think California law can do much.

That is usually the opposite. If a contract contain illegal clauses, those clauses are nil.
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