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Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by ergocoder »

kweingar wrote: post #567

The most bizarre aspect of this was when Twitter engineers were told to print out their code on paper. There is literally no good reason to do that. At best it is staggering incompetence. At worst it is an intentionally pointless and expensive exercise that serves purely as a loyalty test.

> At worst it is an intentionally pointless and expensive exercise that serves purely as a loyalty test.

The engineers would have used company's resources. I wouldn't be bothered if I am forced to do this. It is a 1 minute of work to print something.

I don't think this part is true. It is likely fake. The source for the print out story is so shaky. Leah Culver tweeted obscurely which is hard to tell whether it is a joke. Casey claims to have screenshots but refuse to show the redacted version of them and end with "subscribe to read"....

The code review part might be true but it is not a spicy story.

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Post by seydor »

riffraff wrote: post #628
mikeryan wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If these numbers are right and they're laying off 50% the workforce, half of me wonders how much Parag could raise to build a new Twitter from scratch and just hire 500 - 1000 talented folks off the street for the venture, I mean if Travis K could raise almost a billion for his shitty ghost kitchen venture I'd have to think they could get enough runway to get something launched pretty quickly. There's so many "What w…

Why would anyone jump on Parag's new Twitter? The only value Twitter has is network effects, the old leadership clearly didn't show much capacity of adding value and as much as people hate Elon it's not like Twitter didn't come under critics before. Starting a new social network with "it's not run by those dicks" has not been a particularly successful move, anecdotically.

because he s leftist

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

rendall wrote: post #669
xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #596

A great attempt to dodge vesting schedules and escape doling out severance. Even if they convince many engineers to quit willingly, one presumes that the next step is rounds of layoffs with cause . California is at-will, but notoriously anal regarding mass-layoffs. My serious question is, regardless of with or without cause, surely some employment attorneys are licking their lips at the stack of prospective cases the…

> I'd be trying to figure out how to maximize my severance package... How would one go about doing that? Is there a way to have influence on that?

i don't know, but quit vs fire probably makes a difference.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by ergocoder »

saxelsen wrote: post #600
kweingar wrote: post #567

The most bizarre aspect of this was when Twitter engineers were told to print out their code on paper. There is literally no good reason to do that. At best it is staggering incompetence. At worst it is an intentionally pointless and expensive exercise that serves purely as a loyalty test.

The text messages that were published as part of the suit to close the acquisition showed Musk discussing "return to office" as a way to naturally trim some of the workforce by having the dissatisfied remote workers quit on their own. My take on the paper printing is that it is a similar strategy to get people to quit by themselves, because they think it's stupid.

The two aren't similar at all.

Commute to work = hours lost every day with drastic lifestyle change. Some people even move further away from the office during pandemic.

Printing code on paper = 1 minute of work. Paper and ink are paid by company. It is not really that much of a problem.

Actually, this is a punishment on the reviewer. No jump to definition and etc.

The printing story is fake. I call it now.

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Post by upsidesinclude »

tannedNerd wrote: post #653
upsidesinclude wrote: post #646

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This reeks of the arrogance someone who has never gone through recession layoffs. Sometimes your division gets slashed for no reason other then your vp wasn’t slightly more persuasive. When investors want to see cuts, lots of good people end up fired for no reason other than bad luck. Trying to time a parachute into a not super terrible market isn’t the worst idea. Plus usually the first and second round are the most…

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Post by voidfunc »

ipqk wrote: post #65

I'd be pissed off if I were a TSLA stock owner. Is Twitter paying Tesla to contract out these employees for their work? Otherwise, it's tons of thousands of dollars Tesla is pissing away on behalf of the CEO's side-hustle.

Musk has made TSLA stock holders fabulously wealthy over the last decade. He's gonna get a long leash from TSLA shareholders.

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Post by IgorPartola »

uni_rule wrote: post #48
Tiktaalik wrote: post #46

I dunno why any Twitter engineers would be really trying that hard right now. Passively destroying Twitter from within by not trying, and trying to make a billionare lose 44 billion dollars is a significantly more fun and interesting challenge than making Twitter a better product.

See also: Tumblr losing Yahoo/Verizon nearly a Billion dollars with it's own implosion.

Oh come now. Tumblr didn’t fail due to engineers sabotaging it. It failed because the new owners decided that they were too squeamish for porn and it turned out that porn was what sustained Tumblr. This was Yahoo simply not understanding what the product actually was.

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

tannedNerd wrote: post #653
upsidesinclude wrote: post #646

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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This reeks of the arrogance someone who has never gone through recession layoffs. Sometimes your division gets slashed for no reason other then your vp wasn’t slightly more persuasive. When investors want to see cuts, lots of good people end up fired for no reason other than bad luck. Trying to time a parachute into a not super terrible market isn’t the worst idea. Plus usually the first and second round are the most…

I've never been laid off but my productivity would definitely tank if I knew half of us were getting cut. I think I'm pretty good, but not above getting the axe. Which is also why I choose my teams/projects wisely because a lot of them disappear

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Post by readsadhours »

lupire wrote: post #470
longrod wrote: post #448

I think people are looking at this the wrong way. It's not so much about the code as it is about establishing an authority. Musk takeover is often regarded as banditry and I wouldn't be surprised if the employees didn't take him seriously in the beginning. This is his way of saying, "I don't trust you, I don't know what you have been up to but things are going to be different so better get used to it." Using Tesla en…

Why would anyone take him seriously when he is making a massive embarrassment of himself on his first day on the job (after doing the same for months leading up to the takeover?) Musk didn't know the bio of the CEO of the company he was buying (who was also former CTO, engineer, Stanford PhD (thesis topic: making decisions under uncertainty), IPhO gold medalist, top tier Indian tech student) and called him a non-tech…

I can't believe people still respect Parag after what happened with Mudge.

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Post by snissn »

yalogin wrote: post #614

What code is he reviewing? And why is he reviewing it? There must be millions of lines of code. Also, why bring in Tesla employees? Twitter employees are also his own, they could do they review for him. Just shows how musk feels about Twitter and the people there. Such disrespect.

Article clearly says per employee code written in last 30-60 days
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