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Sublime, TextMate, …
BBEdit.
Sunsetting Atom
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> Atom extensions could have dependencies on each other This. This always has been and always will be a critical ecosystem mistake. The principle of one msi/exe installing everything you need on Windows, one click downloading an entire app from a store on Android or iOS is seamless and almost always error free. Or in your example with VSCode having self contained encapsulated plugins that install with one click. Mean…
That seems extreme. Any ecosystem has to strike a balance between which things should be opinionated/officially-sanctioned/standardized, and which things should be left open in "userspace". I think Atom made the wrong choice by outsourcing some very standard features to the community, like hover-overs and underlines. VSCode seems to have hit a sweet-spot, offering standard solutions for common functionality but leavi…
Even cases like installing the .NET framework or the JVM or some C++ redistributable are parts of that idea that leaked into the otherwise flat packed environment of Windows for example, and all I've ever seen it is cause issues due to version mismatches or them missing. Just completely self destructive behaviour in order to save a few megabytes... and not even that when in practice you end up with 14 installations of the same thing with different versions for every app ffs.
Android is arguably handling this way better, as such stupidity simply isn't even allowed there (to my knowledge), as are web browsers. Imagine having to install a chrome extension to use a site properly, people would think you're insane!
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I do, and one person has control over the keyboard at a time. Hell on earth is two people making write operations at the same code buffer.
I don’t see why? Doing some refactoring you’ve decided to do and you can both go through the file at the same time refactoring different methods or whatever. What’s the issue?
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#675Your work made more impact than you can possibly know. Atom became my absolute #1 editor. For code, and notes of every possible kind. As an entrepreneur, it carried me through so many adventures. The death of a cofounder, great losses and victories, the madness of 2020, a close friend's betrayal, a subsequent rebirth of sorts, and on and on. And always, this trusty piece of software sat there. Ready whenever calamity struck.
Thank you, folks. You created a wondrous piece of art and greatly impacted this entrepreneur's way of thinking and organization. Many have gained as a result.
Will follow Zed closely!
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#676Founder of Atom here. We're building the spiritual successor to Atom over at https://zed.dev . We learned a lot with Atom and had a great time, but it always fell short of our vision. With Zed we're going to get it right. Written in Rust, custom native UI framework, engineered to be collaborative. Just starting our private alpha this week, so the timing of this announcement feels quite fitting. Here's a talk I gave l…
I tried using VScode and Atom. Both were noticeably slow compared to sublime text. I can do silly, bad practice things like open a 50 meg log file in sublime and search for simple regex in the editor. Electron based editors stall and potentially crash.
Re: Sunsetting Atom
#677Founder of Atom here. We're building the spiritual successor to Atom over at https://zed.dev . We learned a lot with Atom and had a great time, but it always fell short of our vision. With Zed we're going to get it right. Written in Rust, custom native UI framework, engineered to be collaborative. Just starting our private alpha this week, so the timing of this announcement feels quite fitting. Here's a talk I gave l…
How many times do you have to re-invent the text editor?
Re: Sunsetting Atom
#678Founder of Atom here. We're building the spiritual successor to Atom over at https://zed.dev . We learned a lot with Atom and had a great time, but it always fell short of our vision. With Zed we're going to get it right. Written in Rust, custom native UI framework, engineered to be collaborative. Just starting our private alpha this week, so the timing of this announcement feels quite fitting. Here's a talk I gave l…
"Mission-critical tools should be hyper-responsive." Did not seem to be important with the worlds slowest dev-tool ever, Atom. ;) "Real-time collaboration produces better software." At design level, ok. Programming is in most cases not a co-op operation. If it is, then you are probably creating solutions while writing code which is the best guarantee for bad solutions. “Conversations should happen close to code.” Agr…
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from the article "This is a tough goodbye. It’s worth reflecting that Atom has served as the foundation for the Electron framework, which paved the way for the creation of thousands of apps, including Microsoft Visual Studio Code, Slack, and our very own GitHub Desktop."
Yes. As the comment you’re replying to said, “Both using Electron does not mean they share a codebase, not in the normal sense of the phrase.” Code is no more a “rewrite of Atom that reuses a big chunk of the original codebase” than Slack is.
I'm not an expert on this at all, I'm just quoting, but Spark is being used rhetorically as if it's an outlandish to consider it to be a descendent
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How do other editors/IDEs perform in terms of accessibility? What are your favorites?
My favorite is VS Code by far. I use it daily. They recently also added a bunch of sound cues to help figure out if code is folded or a line contains an error. It's pretty great. Auto completion reads well, the parameter hints read, even the built-in terminal works. So overall I'm really happy with it.