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What happened to Russias Air Force? U.S. officials, experts stumped

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Re: What happened to Russias Air Force? U.S. officials, experts stumped

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> Did they really launch this invasion on the assumption that the people of Ukraine would just roll over and accept foreign rule? I don't think it's that simple. Sure, conscripts were told to expect a welcome in streets lined with natives waving Russian flags. Maybe some in high command even thought that was a possibility. But they have backup plans; we've seen only the first click of the ratchet. Escalate, pause; es…

Ukraine IS Russia. Russian Federation doesn't contain a region named «Russia». Russia formed when Oleg from Novgorod killed Ascold and Dir (rulers of Kyїv) in 852AD, captured Kyїv, then called it as «mother of (new) Russian cities». When Moscow tsar Petro I captured original Russia (now Ukraine), he appended «tsar of all Russia» to his tittle. Then Catherine II renamed Moscow kingdom to Russian Empire. So, in short,…

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Re: What happened to Russias Air Force? U.S. officials, experts stumped

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It's basic vocabulary in poli-sci or international relations studies or circles. Less obscure (in the context of those fields) than much of the engineering, math, and computer nerd jargon that gets thrown around on here regularly. Likely to be encountered in adjacent fields, notably history. It's about one small notch more obscure than the term "hegemony".

I've never heard it before and I watch Rick and Morty.

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Re: What happened to Russias Air Force? U.S. officials, experts stumped

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I guess everyone's weighing in with their view, so why not? Firstly, we should be mindful that the fog of war is now in play, and a good amount of what we think we know is unverifiable. With that caveat out of the way... It seems that the Russian soldiers are making efforts to avoid attacking civilians directly. Counterexamples exist and could be explained by rogue units, incompetence, or hot-blooded revenge on local…

All your variants are based on the assumption that Russia wants to stay in Ukraine. From what I've seen i don't think that's the goal.

Russia probably wants eastern Ukraine (and let's admit it, Donbass and Donetsk are not Ukrainian anymore since 8 years), but has no interest in occupying the western part, only in ensuring it stays neutral geopolitically.

People talking about Russia planning to invade Finland or other countries next are completely delusional. Russia is a small economy and has no chance of winning an open conflict with NATO. You may not like Putin but he's definitely not suicidal.

Re: What happened to Russias Air Force? U.S. officials, experts stumped

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What does that make nuclear warfare, a comprehensive spam campaign?

Linkedin notifications maybe

We're calling because your car's warranty policy is about to expire!

Re: What happened to Russias Air Force? U.S. officials, experts stumped

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It's basic vocabulary in poli-sci or international relations studies or circles. Less obscure (in the context of those fields) than much of the engineering, math, and computer nerd jargon that gets thrown around on here regularly. Likely to be encountered in adjacent fields, notably history. It's about one small notch more obscure than the term "hegemony".

I've never heard it before and I watch Rick and Morty.

Just play Civ

Re: What happened to Russias Air Force? U.S. officials, experts stumped

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This is destroying Putin's legitimacy in Russia too

nothing of it reported. use google translate to browse ria ru

Can't access it even with Google translate from Europe. What a sad day for the so-called free world.

Edit: works with Yandex translate

Re: What happened to Russias Air Force? U.S. officials, experts stumped

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> You had a CNN commentator straight up saying this is different than Middle East wars since Kyiv is a " civilized city". CBS News foreign correspondent Charlie D'Agata, actually. > It's not hard to imagine if Haiti had a US backed leader, who was removed in a coup and then replaced with a pro Russia / pro China president. Now imagine China and Russia announcing plans for various military bases on Haiti. The Russians…

> Uh, you know this actually happened in a different Caribbean island state and, while there was a bit of a dispute about nuclear weapons that resulted in both alliances pulling them back from each others borders in a quid pro quo What nuclear weapons were being placed in Ukraine? Russia's only argument is that "someday maybe, perhaps, it could possibly happen".

Putin's big speech listed out NATO compatible airbases he objected to as being a soft prelude to expansion, and one of the first things they did was bomb those airbases. The Russian state really was serious about that.

Re: What happened to Russias Air Force? U.S. officials, experts stumped

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So you mean to provide Russia with a more stable platform from which to invade again in say, 5 years? You don't change any of the context that led Russia to invade in the first place. You leave intact an aggressor who has repeatedly and consistently expanded. You gave them Crimea and hoped that would appease them. You tolerated their aggressions in eastern Ukraine. Now you will just give them Donbas and Luhansk and h…

Give them Crimea in exchange for an agreement that Ukraine be allowed to apply to join NATO.

Give them Sudeten in exchange for promise that they will not attack Poland.

This tactic worked well for 8 years in the case of Ukraine and was heavily (really heavily) promoted by François Hollande and Angela Merkel.

IMHO, it's good to stick to a tactic with proven track record. The main idea is to feed the monster with virgins. Give them Crimea, then Donbas, then Belarus, then South Ukraine, then Eastern Ukraine, then Central Ukraine, then Western Ukraine, then Georgia, then Finland, etc., etc., etc. With a few years between each scarification, this can keep the monster satiated for a long time, so it will be a problem of your children, while you keep a comfortable style of life. For bang per $, this is the cheapest and safest option for most Europeans and Americans.

Re: What happened to Russias Air Force? U.S. officials, experts stumped

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Thank you for articulating this better than I could. You had a CBS* commentator straight up saying this is different than Middle East wars since Kyiv is a " civilized city". That said, I think much of Russia's restraint is due to their end goal. Ukraine's Russian backed president was outted in a coup back in 2014. The new pro West leadership decided to go dancing with John McCain. This entire conflict could of been a…

Haiti would not count as a warm water port for this purpose, because it would not serve the Russian mainland at all. Russia has plenty of foreign "warm water" ports it can use already. Other than the unfortunate Haitians, who have suffered enough already, it is hard to imagine why a vaguely democratic decision by Haiti to become a Russian ally would meet with more than a collective yawn unless Russia planned to stati…

Latin American has pretty much NEVER been allowed to pursue it's political destiny without the US interfering.

Re: What happened to Russias Air Force? U.S. officials, experts stumped

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Some of the residential hits seemed to be cruise missiles that weren't aware that a building was in their path. A case of the height map not being updated correctly in the computer's memory? The Russians seem to be sloppy all over the place, so it wouldn't surprise me. All this lightens my mood, since it's obvious the Russians wouldn't last two months against NATO forces.

No forces would last two months in a nuclear war though, so it's not all that rosy.

One nuclear bomb would ruin my whole day
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