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Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Did you read my last line? I did not suggest they do so now, but I do genuinely wonder how long until they do. It's a big issue that they have been allowed to control this market the way they do. It's somewhat tolerable today because they've avoided taking steps to call nsolidate them . But also only for that reason.

> It's a big issue that they have been allowed to control this market the way they do. I don't think that's true. Tinder doesn't control the dating app market, nor would it be a problem, per se, if they did.

Tinder doesn't control it, but Match as a whole definitely does in a whole lot of markets.

And yes, it'd be a massive problem if Tinder controlled it in that it'd put an unaccountable company in control of whether or not people get access. And one with a history of refusing to engage people who feel wronged.

If Match expands that to its other properties then it becomes a problem even if Tinder alone doesn't dominate.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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>All of the avenues to contact Instagram are meaningless and don’t lead anywhere. I feel you. I got permabanned from tinder when I emailed their support asking how the verification process worked with couples. They replied with a ban notice and I was confused, turns out couples profiles are against Tinders T&C. I hadn't actually done ANYTHING to violate their T&C in-app yet, just asking their support about it was eno…

Wow never heard of the embedded secret key on you iOS keychain after you uninstalled the app. Is this legal to fingerprint your AppleID like this?? Can you view your iOS keychain and wipe any fingerprinting bs apps leave behind or feed them poisoned data to dissociate your AppleID?

No, there’s no way for you to view it. Apps can spin up a new keychain that iCloud will sync and you can put arbitrary strings in there. The user has no idea.

I’ve used it myself to persist auth tokens.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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"Take their money and run" is one of those standard operating practices in big tech that I think obviously needs legislation to curb. Once you start looking, you see it everywhere; whether its movies on iTunes, books on Kindle, or costumes in Fortnite. If you break their ToS, they're allowed to cancel your account, without recourse, and take away all the content you purchased. Its especially egregious in gaming, wher…

As someone with an enormous personal paid content library, I absolutely agree legislation is needed here. Also randomized lootboxes should be subject to gambling laws, or at least regulated such that you can’t get duplicates or something reasonable like that.

On further thought, banning duplicates is just begging for trouble. It's a loophole you can drive a truck through. Just append a random throwaway property to every item and bam, "unique".

So yeah, regulate it as gambling. Don't let them advertise to minors. Don't allow them to knowingly let minors participate.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Where can I see that data?

Google scholar is the easiest source, but I can help by sharing a few (there is no single paper I know of that sums everything up). It's a difficult topic because so few solid studies have been done - but everything we know suggests that its effects are - on average - weak. In other words, online time appears to neither add to nor detract from the lives of most people (at least directly). It's just time filled up wit…

Thank you for taking the time to collect and post these, that is indeed an interesting starting point to dig deeper.

From what I gathered from glancing over a few of the links given, my own takeaway right now is “it’s complicated” since the effects on an individual seem to be mostly determined by the type of interaction as well as who you’re interacting with.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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There's something to that, and I skew towards democratic socialist. Doing nothing because it appears to target a perceived "foe" attribute or other demonstrates a lack of integrity in the bystander. Fair is fair, while selective impact games build resentment. One love and so on. We have to get past putting people in boxes for arbitrary disagreement/animosity. Formalized politics must be made obsolete.

I'm agreeing with you, to be clear, and I'm not a conservative. It's disappointing that that seems to be the inference people have made, if I understand correctly the message that was intended to be sent by the smattering of downvotes. It's disturbing that these things are being done to anyone, and that we don't understand the ramifications or the subtleties just because our tribe forbids us to empathise with the peo…

> If it were left-wingers being banned

It is left wingers being banned. Essentially what happens is that conservatives will get banned for violence and bigotry, then companies will ban random rule abiding left wing groups just to appease angry conservatives.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/09/facebook-antifa...

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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There's no goalpost moving. It's the same thing I said originally. You shouldn't be swayed by inappropriately small sample sizes. Your response was "well what if I had a lot of them?" My answer was "still no." . > In the meantime, I'll go with the best we got. This isn't even close to the best we've got.

My original claim is that something like that was true and what someone else was referring to and I gave you a lazy link, and you complained about the guys terrible methodology and replication. I told you that there are dozens of studies and data analyses (some are on huge data sets [1]) out there and your response is that oh no they have to be quality. That's a goalpost move from "this is bad" to "all those (that I…

> Until then I'm going with that studies I've seen that all seem to say roughly the same thing (despite widely varying sample sizes and quality of methodology)

There are none with acceptable sizes. You're just talking.

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If you're in your mid-20s in most US metro areas (except in the South, perhaps) - this is what it's like.

> If you're in your mid-20s in most US metro areas (except in the South, perhaps) - this is what it's like Says who? Have you stepped out during a weekend in a US metro city? To popular nightspots? No app needed to meet and socialise with attractive people - strangers or an extended social circle. In fact some might even say it is like shooting fish in a barrel

> In fact some might even say it is like shooting fish in a barrel

If by “some” you mean females in their mid-20s, then yeah probably.

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I think you've answered your own question: probably never. Because whatever company would apply said commoditized data science would have the same incentives as Tinder and the rest. So except for some "open source" or otherwise "community-driven" effort, I don't think we'll ever see it. The issue with setting this up in your garage is that for such an app to work, you need to have many users. And to have many users,…

Imagine if a company had this business idea: If you get married to someone we introduce to you, you pay us 10000 USD. Else you pay us nothing. Would not that raise the bar?

Some of the modern Indian dating apps seem to follow this approach and do quite well. It’s likely more accepted there because of the tradition of arranged marriages. Western audiences might find it strange.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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What if you aren’t conventionally attractive though or have unsymmetrical facial features and are not photogenic. I think your advice does not apply to a lot of people who never get picked on these types of platforms

Its not supposed to

So who does your advice apply to?
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