Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony

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Post by 72deluxe » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 3:01 PM UTC

jefftk wrote: post #317

72deluxe wrote: post #137

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This seems to be a repeat of the GNOME issues years and years and years ago where people would complain that donations were used to try and encourage women to program instead of spending it on infrastructure etc. I seem to remember people who complained about it were shouted down as mysogenist. It seems the organisations forget why they're here - to write software, not to try and solve all of mankind's issues and inj…

The Mozilla Foundation has seen their role as much larger than that for a long time. The first Mozilla manifesto came out in 2008 [1] and includes: The Mozilla Foundation pledges to support the Mozilla Manifesto in its activities. Specifically, we will: - build and enable open-source technologies and communities that support the Manifesto's principles; build and deliver great consumer products that support the Manife…

It still seems to hinge around consumer products and communities to support the products.

Perhaps the cart has now been put in front of the horse somewhat and they think that a great community (or being involved in issues entirely separate to software) will somehow magically create great software.

Re: Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony

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Post by m-p-3 » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 7:30 PM UTC

aorth wrote: post #224

m-p-3 wrote: post #123

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IMO they're in a good position where then can include deep-rooted privacy services on which they could (and already do in some) capitalize. for example Mozilla VPN and Firefox Relay which added a premium version with unlimited aliases and your own @*.mozmail.com subdomain. If they can find a way to promote themselves as a leader of Internet privacy with well-integrated servoces, and from which they can get a revenue…

> Relay I started using Relay recently and it seems useful. I'll subscribe. I hope they can get a few hundred thousand paying users there...

Personally I'd pay just a bit more to integrate my Firefox Relay aliases automatically with my Bitwarden account.

I know Firefox has its own builtin password manager, but it's mostly barebone.

Re: Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony

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Post by pseudalopex » Wed, Dec 08, 2021, 5:03 AM UTC

burnte wrote: post #668

pseudalopex wrote: post #648

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Mozilla removed the embedding APIs in 2011. And they were incomplete and unstable before.[1] [1] https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.dev.embedding/c/c_NMcO-N...

That's about being about to build out Gecko as a blob to be called like a library. That doesn't mean Gecko can be used without all the extra parts in your app.

> That's about being about to build out Gecko as a blob to be called like a library.

That's what embedding a browser engine means.

> That doesn't mean Gecko can be used without all the extra parts in your app.

What extra parts?

Re: Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony

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Post by sdeframond » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 7:47 PM UTC

1_player wrote: post #540

sdeframond wrote: post #518

I have just set up a monthly donation to Mozilla. If Wikipedia can live on donations, why not Mozilla? https://donate.mozilla.org

Be aware that donating to Mozilla doesn't contribute towards the development of Firefox.

Do we know for sure ?

Re: Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony

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Post by ntp85 » Fri, Dec 10, 2021, 12:04 PM UTC

speeder wrote: post #392

jerieljan wrote: post #159

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Mind if I ask when you've last used Firefox? I've had these problems before (on rare occasions) but ever since Firefox did its Quantum leap, these issues were pretty much resolved.

I switched to Brave 2 weeks ago, that was when Firefox deleted my pinned tabs.

Did it also delete your containers by chance? That is, if you have set any up.

This drives me up the wall. At certain, irregular intervals Firefox loses my configured multi-account containers - except for those provided by an extension, e.g. Amazon Container.