Was so hoping for a Mini. Sigh.
If I could get my current M1 mini with the 64GB chip, it would be absolutely perfect.
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MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
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#672Nice. Ports are back. Very nice. Prices are up. Not nice. The deal breaker is the notch. Sorry Apple I am a designer. I cannot watch this 24/7. Even if the top bar is black the notch will be visible enough to distract my visual line. The more I look at this, the more I like the Framework laptop. P.S. Happy down-voting, have a nice day and stay safe.
Can you help me understand that? I have an iPhone with a notch and I find it’s totally fine. Day to day I don’t notice it. It just kind of blends in to the design of the phone. And I assume the situation here will be the same. Most software doesn’t use the whole menu bar anyway. It wont be on top of anything except if you use that space to watch full screen video. I’m not excited about the price, but I’d totally take…
> Most software doesn’t use the whole menu bar anyway.
No, but all those little things you've installed that put up a menu bar item on the right add up - I'm sitting at a cafe on my laptop right now, and the menu widgets come to pretty much the center. If I unhide the less-frequently-used ones that I hide with Bartender then they're covering 5/6 of the width of the screen.
I am an artist and spend a lot of time with Illustrator in fullscreen mode, with no visible menus. It'll be pretty annoying to have this thing jamming into the middle of my work area. Especially given that I think I could probably count on one hand the number of times I've used the cameras hiding in the frame of my previous Macs. Anyone playing games will be annoyed by it too.
Hopefully they will not make this same move in the next round of Airs, as that's what my next computer's probably going to be.
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#673God I want Linux on these things. Apple have built some very sexy hardware, but I'm still not into the OS. It's just... sluggish (mostly in terms of productivity, not performance), too barebones, too basic and toy-like. I need a real OS to make my dream laptop.
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#674I don't plan to go back to MagSafe. I have multiport USB-C chargers all round my house and don't really want to buy lots of cables or proprietary chargers to add to the mix. I'm sticking with USB-C even if it's slower. SD cards I don't use. And HDMI I rarely use so dongles are fine, but it's nice to have I guess!
The other end of the new MagSafe cable is a USB-C plug, so that should be fine.
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#675I don't plan to go back to MagSafe. I have multiport USB-C chargers all round my house and don't really want to buy lots of cables or proprietary chargers to add to the mix. I'm sticking with USB-C even if it's slower. SD cards I don't use. And HDMI I rarely use so dongles are fine, but it's nice to have I guess!
I don't have any USB-C but I've got some MagSafe. Unfortunately this is MagSafe3 so I assume that means buying new chargers. I like the SD and HDMI, but IMHO they are still missing "standard" USB ports which are used by most flash storage devices. It's not even about the cost of buying new devices for me, it's about someone handing me an SD or a thumb drive with some data on it and being able to just use it. Apple is very very poor when it comes to that.
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#676the notch is a major design compromise and apple is not trying hard enough. i can not imagine paying six thousand dollars for a new laptop and literally staring into an unforced error every day. (See, Dell XPS bezel-less displays like this: https://twitter.com/SpencerDailey/status/1450170126360358914 ) I hide my menu bar for maximum space, and you can't do that here without eating into your main apps' vertical space.…
Dell XPS laptops not only pull of a bezel-less design, but also fit a webcam with infrared component for Windows Hello face unlock in there too. Apple has a notch with no Face ID.
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#677as beautiful as the hardware is, I just cannot stomach buying another machine I can not comfortably replace the battery in. Either Apple returns to its earliest roots of making machines that are easy to repair, or find me and many others buying machines from the likes of Frame.work instead.
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#678Kills the touch bar, the light touch keyboard, adds back weight, card reader, ports and the mag safe. Feels like an apology for prior design decisions. My 2011 MBP is new again!
I have owned macbooks only since 2017 and found the older (2011 era) aesthetic design to be bulky and not too appealing. I own a 2020 model, which looks sharp and professional. I don't like them going back to this rounded edges on the bottom. I love everything else, except this simple gripe over aesthetics.
Well, perceptions change. In 2012, the aesthetic and design was state of the art. Felt I looked good every time I pull it out.
But I still use a 2012 MBP. Doesn't look sharp anymore, and its always been pretty heavy, but they keys work sooooo well, the touchpad is a miracle of engineering, 9 years of daily use and everything still works beautifully. And frankly, I mostly don't notice any lag still (though I might if I was doing video editing). And the port selection meant that I could hook up to just about anything with no hassle ... including ethernet. Wifi is still inferior to an ethernet port.
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#679Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.
Actually, they kept one of the oldest mistakes: overcharging. $400 to upgrade from 16GB RAM to 32GB. $200 to upgrade to 1TB SSD. These guys control the whole supply chain without middlemen like WD, Samsung, Crucial, etc — and they charge basically double what anyone else charges. I'm not paying $2k for a laptop below what I need as a developer, when Apple is ridiculous. Inflation is murder right now, and they JACK th…
I've been a Mac user since the 90s and a long time apologist for the Apple premium... I understand and have generally been totally fine paying for design, fit and finish, longevity, and attention to detail that's hard to come by elsewhere. That said, the absurd markups on storage and memory have always been REALLY aggravating to me, and were a factor in my decision to build a desktop machine instead of getting another Mac last year. It's not even a question of affordability, it just rubs me the wrong way. $400 for +16GB of RAM in 2021?? Nonsense.
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#680I know it will be an unpopular opinion here, but bringing back the HDMI and SD card port is making the macbook much thicker and will eat up some space than can be used by battery instead, all that for ports I will never use. I wish there was another option without these ports.
The 16" is already built to maximum battery capacity by law
Interesting, honestly didn't know that was a thing.
Is this the first macbook that's hit the 100WHr limit, or has this been a barrier previously? But I mean like, that's it? No doubt there are gains to be made with a better battery, charging, cycling, cost and so forth. But without changing the regulations, a better battery can only get you more space, not higher capacity. Wild to consider.