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OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October
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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October
#672Wow, this is like if Apple said they were going to stop making iPhones.
Especially if you consider that you could just web search for free iPhones, ask your friends older brother to go buy some iPhones for you from the corner store, or work on your appearance and conversational skills and go get someone to give you a free iPhone IRL.
I never understood this subscriber minded concept of "Porn as a Service". Back in my day we'd just steal our dad's iPhone and share it among friends (assuming everyone took care of the iPhone and didn't spill any liquids on it). Even in the 80s and 90s you could just throw a rock and there was a 50% chance it'd land on an iPhone. It's even easier now, there's entire websites dedicated to hoarding images and videos of iPhones on various hosting sites. From an access-to-iPhone perspective, this is non-news. From a "MUH RIGHTS" perspective, I get why people are upset, but you also gotta see it from the billing perspective. It's their payment processing and they'll do with it what they want. But I mean ccBill exists and offers rates of 10-15%.. just earn less, I guess.
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#673Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly did not know they did anything besides porn. They have a really bad marketing department as I bet most people only know of them via porn (or I run in a slightly more degenerate circle).
Not at all. If someone told anyone I know they have a onlyfans, I can’t think of anyone who would assume anything other than porn
It is the same problem that Voat had. If you are are a platform that prioritizes minimal moderation in a market dominated by someone who doesn't, the primary reason to use your platform is because that content isn't allowed on the market leader.
Voat only became "Reddit for white supremacists" because Reddit was pushing many of those users off their platform. Only Fans only became "Patreon for sex work" because Patreon didn't want those users on their platform. Anyone who wasn't one of those groups was better off just sticking with Reddit and Patreon and that only became truer as the reputation became more and more ingrained with the platform's brand.
Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October
#674This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.
TFA: > OnlyFans is getting out of the pornography business. HN: s/of the pornography //
>TFA:
>> OnlyFans is getting out of the pornography business.
>HN:
> s/of the pornography //.
…is getting out business?
Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October
#675Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…
Do you think prostitution should be legal?
Absolutely.
People are going to do what they want to do. When you ban something that's the end of your regulation on it. So it goes underground and becomes less safe for everybody that's involved with it.
When you legalize it you can be more nuanced with the regulation, ultimately making it safer and having better outcomes for a huge majority of the people involved. You won't get 100% but it's certainly better than the 0% you're getting with a ban.
Of course the more you over-regulate and create effective bans the lower that % of people following your regulations is going to be and you're back to square one. Take a look at the history of abortions through being banned, coming into legality, and then back into over-regulation/effective ban in some places. Rate of abortions doesn't go down meaningfully when they're explicitly or implicitly illegal but rate of complications from abortions goes way up.
An anecdote for you: someone I know was instrumental in getting the "condoms in porn" law architected in LA county. The goal was to normalize condom use in the face of multiple STD epidemics including HIV. On the surface this is great. But porn with condoms is insanely less popular than porn without condoms - effectively making this new law a ban on producing porn in LA county. So what happened? Productions either went half an hour down the road to the next county or they just stopped actually filing permits and went unregulated meaning no more enforcement of the regimen of testing etc that porn actors were previously required to adhere to, leading to less safe outcomes for the folks involved and no meaningful increase in the amount of porn featuring condom use.
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#676Earlier quoted context omitted.
What other brand do they have? Also, there seriously needs to be a reckoning with the payment processor issue, somehow.
Exactly, you can't clean up the OF brand because its brand as it is commonly known is 18 to 30yr olds selling nudes. And this seems to be its big customer demographic. There is no significant "other brand" to split off. If it wants to start a Patreon competitor with the same backend fine, but that's a new brand. It's literally a meme among younger people: "oh yeah that OF charge it's a cooking class" or "yoga session…
Companies can be very self-deluded about what they are.
Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October
#677This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.
> This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. Strong disagree. They lined their coffers and now it's time to pivot. In fact, it's probably the perfect time to pivot. They are still relatively unknown, and their reputation hasn't been tarnished. Patreon is ripe for disruption. Pornography is not how you become a billion-dollar unicorn, which is I'm sure what they're eyeing (especiall…
> They are still relatively unknown, and their reputation hasn't been tarnished.
Are you sure about that? This company seems pretty well known in the creator space, but not for hosting anything other than porn. At least in all communities I follow, having an OnlyFans account is synonymous with selling porn.
> Pornography is not how you become a billion-dollar unicorn
Pornhub would like to have a word with you. I'd say that, in fact, porn is one of the easiest ways to get there (as shown, for example, by OFs enormous growth).
Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October
#678> In order to ensure the long-term sustainability of our platform, and the continue to host an inclusive community of creators and fans, we must evolve our content guidelines So, they are trying to get inclusive by excluding most of their community... I understand it is bullshit and the only reason they do it is because porn is a difficult investment, with a lot of credit card fraud and limited opportunities for part…
"Diversity" and "inclusivity" are weasel words, they mean absolutely nothing when it comes to corporate speech, it's something you throw in a PR statement to appeal to young people who vote left and political pundits, nothing more.
Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October
#679Sadly I know girls who are using OnlyFans to keep a roof over their heads and stay out of abusive relationships. Whether we like what they're doing to make money OnlyFans was providing them a much-needed revenue stream. Now that's being taken away from them by the morality police who won't be affected by the consequences of their own decisions.
With all due respect, the fact that anyone is forced into porn to get housing be safe from abusive partners is the indictment of a society. I get that it's a de facto situation for some, but let's not drop the onus on "morality police", payment processors, and OnlyFans for a massive societal failure to help vulnerable people. You could take that argument as far as you want (prostitution, drug sales, etc). There is so…
> With all due respect, the fact that anyone is forced into porn to get housing be safe from abusive partners is the indictment of a society.
I absolutely agree. A society where people have to resort to prostitution in order to keep a roof on their heads FAILED, politically, morally and culturally. In fact, that's exactly how things go in third world countries...
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