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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by sixothree »

MiddleEndian wrote: post #588
kinjba11 wrote: post #384

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> Do you use a smartphone? >> What does that have to do with anything? I would bet 99% of iOS and Android users sign in with their Apple or Google account. Signing into an account for an OS is par for the course in 2021.

Smartphones being shitty isn't really a good excuse to make PC operating systems similarly shitty.

I think the real question here is - do you buy the cheapest phone or do you get a decent one that fits your needs.

Because Microsoft _is_ releasing a version of this operating system that fits your needs. You just don't want to pay for it.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by sixothree »

shp0ngle wrote: post #194
hoopleheaded wrote: post #190

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I tend to avoid accounts as much as possible but this seems a juvenile response. Do you use a smartphone?

Android does not require a Google account, I’m not sure about Apple and iOS but I think also not?

Does the Google Play Store allow you to install apps without an account? I can't imagine it would

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by sixothree »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #291
nguyenkien wrote: post #222

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But if you want get android app from playstore, you still need google account. Same for iOS, and it's even worst than android, since you can't sideload apps

I used android for 5 years without an account. You can side load, use fdroid or apkpure.

That sounds like a "Pro" feature. Too bad MS isn't releasing a "Pro" version of Windows 11. Oh wait.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by sixothree »

symlinkk wrote: post #192
mpfundstein wrote: post #189

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just get Pro

No. Why am I paying a company more money to fix a problem they caused? I think I’ll just get a Mac.

And how exactly do you plan to install software on this Mac? It is becoming more locked down every day.

You will need an account.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by sixothree »

michaelbrave wrote: post #443
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> * TPM 2.0 and UEFI are hardware requirements. No legacy BIOS compatibility at all? This is a dealbreaker for me, guess I won't be upgrading and will use linux most of the time instead of half of the time going forward

Full disk encryption is an important feature. TPM helps enable that.

I can't imagine travelling with a work laptop without FDE.

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Post by ED_Radish »

sixothree wrote: post #672
shp0ngle wrote: post #194

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Android does not require a Google account, I’m not sure about Apple and iOS but I think also not?

Does the Google Play Store allow you to install apps without an account? I can't imagine it would

Requiring an account to use the Microsoft Store sounds completely fine to me.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by sixothree »

ED_Radish wrote: post #676
sixothree wrote: post #672

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Does the Google Play Store allow you to install apps without an account? I can't imagine it would

Requiring an account to use the Microsoft Store sounds completely fine to me.

How do you use an android phone without installing applications?

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

Exuma wrote: post #618
wing-_-nuts wrote: post #594

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> I'm the opposite. I can't believe that Finder is the best Apple can do for a file explorer. It is an absolute abomination and after 4 years of using my MBP I still hate it passionately every time I have to use it. Brother, I feel you. I hate finder so much I operate almost exclusively from the command line in os x.

What don't you like about it?

The 3 panel thing is weird to me. There's no way to customize it, and it just feels really awkward to use. The UI is chock full of stuff that does not matter to me.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by jandrese »

BoorishBears wrote: post #482
jandrese wrote: post #477

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CPU requirements are also significantly stiffened up. Intel Core i8 or newer or AMD Ryzen 2 or newer. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/min...

Incredibly misleading statement. You just linked to a list of processors for starting development of a new embedded Windows device. 99.9999% of people will never have to concern themselves with this. Microsoft would never limit support to CPUs released a few years ago.

Update: the 8th gen and up is a soft requirement. The Health Check tool will tell you that you are not compatible, but the installer should let you in with a warning.

Caveat: The install tool bypass has not been verified yet.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by naikrovek »

noobermin wrote: post #633
naikrovek wrote: post #582

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uhh... 64-bit hardware can run 32-bit software just fine. that old software will run fine and so will any connected hardware.

Imagine you have a 32 bit machine that drives something else with a controller board soldered on to the motherboard. Will it be able to run windows 11?

never have I seen anything like that that wasn't an appliance. as in vendor-managed.

so, even if you COULD upgrade to Windows 11 on something, don't, because you'll break it. I can't even think of a good reason to consider it.

if it needs to be on the network, isolate it, and let it do its job. it doesn't need to be fiddled with.

I'd also be having a long conversation with the vendor about using standard expansion interfaces and why soldering to the motherboard is a good way to end my relationship with them as a customer.

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