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Re: Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater Idaho'

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The main driving force is that the rural residence are the remnants of the racist that moved to that area even pre-statehood. They don't like that their white power is fading and they want control.

This is not only baseless, but incredibly inflammatory and dehumanizing. Hackernews is not the place for this type of comment.

https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-white-history-racist...

How are facts baseless?

Re: Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater Idaho'

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I live in a predominantly right-leaning area and know a lot of people who are against universal healthcare. I've talked with a lot of them about it, and every single person would be in favor of it if there was a magical guarantee the money would actually be spent properly and not corruptly misallocated. But the track record is so poor, and there is such little transparency, that they have no trust whatsoever. I can h…

> But the track record is so poor, and there is such little transparency, that they have no trust whatsoever. The track record of... Medicare? It's one of the most popular programs in government! What you've done is just aborb spin. It's true that these people don't trust "The Government" to provide health care, because their thought leaders (and peers like you) keep telling them that. But then they go and enroll in…

This is a way more difficult conversation to have with a reasonably informed person on the right than you are making it out to be...

The social security fund has been “borrowed from” to fund other programs.

The government is clearly in the pocket of big Parma.

The government uses taxpayer money to bail out Wall Street.

The government allocates subsidies based on lobbying groups.

The IRS specifically targeted right wing groups applying for non profit status.

The list goes on and on.

So people on the right are not keen to give that structure more money and power.

It doesn’t matter how successful you may think Medicare is. The power structure and track record of the entity which would manage universal healthcare is abysmal.

I think there is a way to do it which could make the whole program solid and resilient against abuse but the proposals all come from the left who don’t seem particularly interested in resiliency.

Re: Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater Idaho'

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> But the track record is so poor, and there is such little transparency, that they have no trust whatsoever. The track record of... Medicare? It's one of the most popular programs in government! What you've done is just aborb spin. It's true that these people don't trust "The Government" to provide health care, because their thought leaders (and peers like you) keep telling them that. But then they go and enroll in…

This is a way more difficult conversation to have with a reasonably informed person on the right than you are making it out to be... The social security fund has been “borrowed from” to fund other programs. The government is clearly in the pocket of big Parma. The government uses taxpayer money to bail out Wall Street. The government allocates subsidies based on lobbying groups. The IRS specifically targeted right wi…

Also, I really really wish we had a good universal healthcare system. Being unemployed and terrified of being injured sucks
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