I thought this was satire
Zoom Acquires Keybase
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Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
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I'm pretty sure I ended up receiving a load of XLM without opting in at all.
You're wrong. There is an opt-in for wallet key generation. The opt-in does not say that when you opt-in to generate a wallet keypair, it will also do a second operation and use your existing keybase identity keys to sign an attestation that will then be permanently affixed to your profile. The text alludes to that being possible, but it doesn't tell you it's going to actually do that, or that it will then be impossi…
As an average user, can you explain where I’m “supposed” to be upset according to your interpretation of their alleged deception?
Your writing comes off quite accusatory but is also full of technical jargon that I can’t parse so I’ll naturally side with the majority. That’s not saying you’re wrong, but I’m sitting in a camp where I have 60 bucks and don’t feel slighted by their practice in the least.
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
#673I had such high hopes for Keybase; kbfs had completely replaced Dropbox for me. This is terrible news.
Yes. I recently started exploring keybase. I extensively use their filesystem and private git repo. Sad to see them go.
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
#674I would participate in (and could provide resources to) the creation of an open foundation that had as one of its goals the writing of an open source keybase API[0] compatible server. If anyone else is interested, please contact me directly (email in my profile). [0] https://keybase.io/docs/api/1.0
Had a quick look through it, seems a relatively easy implementation. I reckon if someone works full time on it, it'll take 6-12 months as it stands.
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
#675Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't the US actually at least as bad if not worse? Thanks to Edward Snowden we know without speculation that the US "is hostile and leverages their power to censor/collect communication information from companies and their people without checks on this power" (ok, supposedly there is secret judges that secretly check on this power, but that doesn't really do any good does it?). The USA also "pressure companies to ha…
People don't get disappeared for actively disagreeing with the government.
How about renditions (extra judicial disappearings), black sites and extra judicial drone strikes?
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
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> why not look at the problem the other way around? Because no one ever buys or hires a conscience. If you thought a conscience was worth having one, that implies you would already have one and thus wouldn't need to outsource it in the first place. Ethics always rolls downhill. If Al Capone goes out and hires Mr. Rogers, the power imbalance between them means Mr. Rogers is going to get dirtier than Capone will get cl…
Thanks for this! Besides upvotes, HN should have a hall of fame for comments this good. It reminds me of 1 Corinthians 15:33 quoting the Greek poet Menander: Do not be misled: “Bad company corrupts good character.”
Click the timestamp, you can favorite a comment from there. It will show up on your profile under favorites -> comments.
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
#677I would participate in (and could provide resources to) the creation of an open foundation that had as one of its goals the writing of an open source keybase API[0] compatible server. If anyone else is interested, please contact me directly (email in my profile). [0] https://keybase.io/docs/api/1.0
I'm not sure what profile you're referring to. But feel free to contact me on keybase, or via encrypted email. You can find a suitable key via keybase, even without creating an account/installing a client.
While there are likely limits to the extend of my potential involvement in these efforts, I'd not want that to be in the way of further communications.
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
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Of course, there have always been bad businesses. The difference between pre-1970 and now, is that we've not only socially legitimized the maximization of profit, we've also all but legally mandated it. Now even "decent" business leaders like the CEO of Costco have to continually answer to their shareholders as to why they're not lowering wages and reducing benefit--and in Costco's case, the shareholders may try to t…
> The difference between pre-1970 and now, is that we've not only socially legitimized the maximization of profit, we've also all but legally mandated it. I'm sorry, but this is just not true. If it was legally mandated, then the Costco CEO would not have been able to resist such shareholder demands. Your example proves the opposite of what you think it does. Nothing has changed in the legal structure of corporate go…
The expression "all but" means "almost but not quite".
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
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Sad. Very sad. It was such a great approach to associating GnuPG keys with social media. And their chat etc were also pretty cool. But Zoom is beyond the pale. So what now? Maybe someone could clone the GitHub repos. And/or are GnuPG keyservers safe enough again? For chat, Session looks most interesting. It's got the Signal messaging bits. Plus anonymity via the Loki onion network. And it's available for all platform…
So, yeah. Zoom did bad stuff. But Keybase is designed so that all those things would obviously be detectable (Keybase client code is open source), and the ways in which the Server could mess with data are much restricted. If that spreads to Zoom, there's a chance it'd be a good service in a year or two. PGP keyservers have a fundamental issue that demands a solution like CT logs or Keybase-style merkle trees. The onl…
They are also kinda buying a social graph of mostly IT and security professionals, sprinkled with some journalists (and not the kind that usually does the "10 things" articles) and general tinfoil hats.
My tinfoil hat tells me this information could be somewhat valuable to their Chinese overlords...
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
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Yeah holy crap. I've been a big fan of Keybase since they launched, but this is a deathknell. I guess I'm not too surprised, Keybase didn't seem to have a business model, but still, disappointing that they're going to go into death this way. Attention people starting businesses: VC funding is fun and all, but please, have a business model. Your users and employees depend on it.
What's our business model, how are we making money? Umm... don't ask me - I'm just the founder! The sad thing is that you need to remind people of it. I would never start a business without an idea of a viable business model for it. What do they expect? Growing until they are too large to fail and then ... Godot arrives and everything is fine?
They expect to get bought. And they were right.