European Commission fines Google €4.34B in Android antitrust case

Post by ocdtrekkie » Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 4:19 PM UTC

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Actually, the biggest thing in Chrome's favor was being an installer pack-in. People still get sometimes Chrome installed on them if they go download Adobe Reader without unchecking the box. (McAfee Security Scan Plus is Adobe's other paid pack-in, you might see that instead, depending on your location.) People seem to vastly forget that a large part of Chrome's dominance of the ordinary user is the fact that install…

I don't see how partnering with a few other software companies to distribute software via installers is a bad thing or a sign of monopolistic practices (aka limiting competition and harming customers by forcing them to use a product they wouldn't otherwise)... It's a bit shady to make it 'automatically the default browser'. But that is a problem with the OS. An installer shouldn't be able to make that choice for the…

Post by AstralStorm » Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 4:20 PM UTC

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This is just factually wrong. Android is a separate software project that is developed separately from Google Play Services. The Android OS works perfectly without those installed. There's no "Chrome, Google Search, and the Google Play Store" in the Android repository. Especially since Android is open source, and most of the latter APKs are not. I suggest to actually have a look at the a android project before making…

Android the project is open source and lacks those apps, but Android the consumer branded product without those apps is not very appealing to customers.

Post by rk06 » Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 4:26 PM UTC

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Can anyone concisely explain what this fine is for, and also why the same wouldn't apply to Apple for iOS? It seems to be a rehash of the issue that Microsoft faced when it only gave you Internet Explorer on install. But iOS comes with only Safari on install, and forces you to use Apple's various apps - how is this any different?

Apple defenders will dismiss market share when comparing Android and iOS and claim that share of profits is all that counts. But they're happy to use market share to justify sanctions against Google. You can't have it both ways folks. The fact is that Apple controls enough of the users that everybody wants that they have at least as much influence as Google does in mobile. That they've chosen to protect their fat pro…

Post by Kenji » Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 4:27 PM UTC

Post by soared » Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 4:28 PM UTC

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Install another home screen, probably can be done in a minute. It is much easier than trying to modify anything at all about the iOS or Windows Phone home screens.

why all comparisons here to iOS? they are not in a dominant position. anti-trust laws apply to you if you are in a dominant position. how iOS handles things are completely irrelevant here.