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Post by Chris2048 »

coldtea wrote: post #664
Chris2048 wrote: post #646

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> They can set it to be Who decides? Politicians romanced by industry lobbyists? Why should the government/public bear the costs for legislating such things? > So, isn't that to their discretion? Now you are switching from "what is right" to "what is legal". The law is dictated by society, based on common morality. > they show there's value to what the sellers are trying to sell. And that value exists under a mandato…

> Now you are switching from "what is right" to "what is legal". The law is dictated by society, based on common morality. No, I keep using both moral/legal. It's their thing, so they get to set their rules for giving access to it. What's immoral about "I created Star Wars 555 but only allow you to see it if you pay $10,000. Oh, and you only get to see it once for the price while I play the kazoo". That's their propo…

> It's their thing, so they get to set their rules for giving access to it.

The government isn't "their thing". They need to negotiate with the rest of society if they want anyone else to enforce those rules.

> What's immoral about "I created Star Wars

You are ignoring a lot of what I wrote about monopolising middle-men, or the role/interest of government in actively enforcing these "propositions".

Do you also not believe in "resale" laws?

> Only as much as DIU shows

Yes, I don't believe this either, I think these kinds of argument are specious. And people acting under under DUIs are a) under the influence, not at their full rational capacity b) a minority, most people support DUI laws.

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Post by ascagnel_ »

boyce wrote: post #516
nitemice wrote: post #309

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You'd happily give away those dollars to the content owners, if they'd just let you stream it legally.

It also needs to be easier to buy it than steal it and not have unskippable adverts or lectures on piracy for a lot of things, stealing is both easier and better

If you live in the US, the act of buying a movie and watching it immediately (without trailers or adverts) is about as simple as you can get. iTunes, Xbox Store, YouTube/Google Play, etc. all offer what are essentially one-click purchases and/or rentals, and the most you get is an interstitial menu defaulted to "play" (with other options for special features and jump to chapter).

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Post by AndrewUnmuted »

alkonaut wrote: post #550
onion2k wrote: post #534

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...a solution that has long been found in the music business. Perhaps you're fortunate that everything you want to listen to is on your preferred music streaming service, but what they offer is far from everything in the music industry's catalogue. Ask any classical music fan what they think of streaming services and you'll hear a tirade against the woeful offerings that streaming services make available.

You don't need "everything" but you need enough. If you subscribe to e.g Spotify you initially get surprised by some things not being in their library. However the library is so large and the use of a single service so convenient that most people can simply accept what's there. After the initial disappointment, any further disappointment is nearly zero so long as you keep all your discovery of new music within Spotif…

No. I am a huge music nerd. It's my life's passion. I need everything. If it is not everything, it's not enough.

In the past, technically savvy music nerds like me had options. LPs and CDs as a distribution format offered true permanence. Vinyl when cared for properly usually outlives the owner. CDs can be ripped and archived with perfect 1:1 accuracy.

These formats don't disappear from my record shelves at the whim of an executive or a change to a silly end user license agreement. They're mine forever, for me to cherish and learn from for as long as I want.

Until the music industry offers this type of solution for the digital music ecosystem, they will not be adequately serving music's most dedicated and passionate patrons.

Bandcamp is the only service that comes close to delivering the proper solution. But they are so uncompromising in their ideals that the 'industry' will not work with them. It's too bad, because they and DistroKid are the only two online music industry services I have ever seen that are genuinely interested in furthering the lives of their users.

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Post by rkuykendall-com »

AJRF wrote: post #582

Is there any good way to just host a bunch of movies and music thats always available? Plex seems like a valid answer, but should I buy a dedicated server to host it and handle connections? I feel like sticking plex on a macbook and just disabling the screensaved is not a good long term solution.

I recommend Synology NAS. I hear QNAP is better, but less polished and easy. I have a 1515+ which has no problem with transcoding. I suggest HGST NAS drives, 4TB and 6TB, because they have the best Mean-Time-To-Fail, but many people buy WD Reds because hey, it's redundant storage anyways, and Reds are a great value and not bad drives. If you only start with 2-3 drives, the whole thing will cost around $1,300.

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Post by overcast »

tex0 wrote: post #509
overcast wrote: post #192

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justwatch doesn't do anything but aggregate affiliate links.

Well, not really. Most content providers don't even have affiliate programms.

More referring to all the overpriced pay to own links.

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Post by ascagnel_ »

derefr wrote: post #170
spilk wrote: post #115

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FireTV and AppleTV already do this some degree. On FireTV when you search for a movie/show it will give you options where to play it based on which apps you have installed (netflix, hulu, or via amazon/prime)

The Apple TV's "TV app" is great for this... but for some reason, it only functions in the US. I get that it has a "live cable" Single-Sign-On component that cable providers need to sign up with–but all I want from it is the unified interface for searching/browsing and watch-tracking of content within streaming services!

I'd wager that's because (aside from Apple generally being US-based) international distribution rights are an even bigger minefield than US distribution rights.

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Post by anindha »

rebuilder wrote: post #668
geff82 wrote: post #112

Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

I got the urge to watch Total Recall, the original version. (Please don't judge me!) Is it available on Netflix where I am? Nope. HBO? No. Amazon Prime video? No! Now, Amazon does offer a digital rental - for 8 bucks! I never thought I'd say this, but I'm starting to miss video rental shops.

What about iTunes? [1]

[1] https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/total-recall/id1040020260

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Post by hedora »

Morgawr wrote: post #597
onion2k wrote: post #534

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...a solution that has long been found in the music business. Perhaps you're fortunate that everything you want to listen to is on your preferred music streaming service, but what they offer is far from everything in the music industry's catalogue. Ask any classical music fan what they think of streaming services and you'll hear a tirade against the woeful offerings that streaming services make available.

This is why I love Google Play Music, you can basically upload any kind of personally-acquired (legally or not) music to the service and it will seamlessly and transparently integrate with the platform itself and let you stream them wherever and whenever like any other. They are stricter than Spotify with regional licenses unfortunately. I listen to a lot of Japanese artists that are on Spotify but not on GPM in Euro…

I bought a Synology NAS, and it does this beautifully, with no privacy issues, or risks of music execs pulling my library.

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Post by rodorgas »

Morgawr wrote: post #597
onion2k wrote: post #534

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...a solution that has long been found in the music business. Perhaps you're fortunate that everything you want to listen to is on your preferred music streaming service, but what they offer is far from everything in the music industry's catalogue. Ask any classical music fan what they think of streaming services and you'll hear a tirade against the woeful offerings that streaming services make available.

This is why I love Google Play Music, you can basically upload any kind of personally-acquired (legally or not) music to the service and it will seamlessly and transparently integrate with the platform itself and let you stream them wherever and whenever like any other. They are stricter than Spotify with regional licenses unfortunately. I listen to a lot of Japanese artists that are on Spotify but not on GPM in Euro…

Deezer also supports MP3 uploads. Works well, but their playlist-centric interface makes impossible navigate through your MP3 library by artist or album.

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Post by bpenrod »

rebuilder wrote: post #668
geff82 wrote: post #112

Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

I got the urge to watch Total Recall, the original version. (Please don't judge me!) Is it available on Netflix where I am? Nope. HBO? No. Amazon Prime video? No! Now, Amazon does offer a digital rental - for 8 bucks! I never thought I'd say this, but I'm starting to miss video rental shops.

Try your local library! Free rental plus a large catalog is pretty hard to beat.
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