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Creepy Crawlies

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Re: Creepy Crawlies

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Many thanks! I've just submitted the first batch of 3000 (daily limit) IP addresses.

That is a ridiculous way to try and deal with the problem of residential proxies. You are, in reality, only hurting the actual owners, the subscribers of those ISPs who are behind those addresses. We call that "collateral damage". If any of those actual residential users try to use a website, their ability to freely access the Internet may be harmed by a bad reputation that they do not deserve. They may be totally un…

I'm sorry to be the one to explain to you that the world isn't fair, and you should always do what you can to advance your own interests.

Re: Creepy Crawlies

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It isn't illegal, there is no law against "network intrusion" which is a term you just made up, and if it was a real term it probably wouldn't cover this. There are laws against things like "unauthorized access to a protected computer system".

Patayto, potahto. You care to explain how a “network intrusion” is not an “unauthorized access to a protected computer system”?

What's a network intrusion?

Re: Creepy Crawlies

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Welcome to capitalism. Welcome to game theory. Welcome to competition. Welcome to the real world. Welcome to being a grown adult.

Contingency exists, I get that, and if you're truly in that state, sure, I don't judge necessity. A lot of our cohort seems to confuse a studied disinterest in looking beyond the end of their own nose for the sage wisdom of adulthood, though.

How will you know anything about a system you stubbornly only look at one side of? Like saying planes are terrible because they're loud. They are, but have you never traveled to a different city?

Re: Creepy Crawlies

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I think that to prove I am not a crawler I probably just need to supply a Safari user agent string. The crawlers on my sites actually self identify for the most part. The malicious ones are banned when they try to post spam. Anyway, what’s wrong with making 2 cents? :)

The troubling part for me is that a system like this could also just as easily be pawned onto the humans (I realize it technically already is with the subscription model internet, but there are still plenty of open sites). A feature like this seems to me will lead to an internet where no one can browse anything without having a wallet connected and paying for each attempted access. Exactly what the internet is not su…

Once you have the payment system, all I have to do is make a site that looks valid until you make a payment. Then it will display the trolololololololololol gif and keep your money.

Re: Creepy Crawlies

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There is no evidence for who's doing this and nobody has made any effort to obtain any.

Sorry, no evidence for who's running... GPTBot and ClaudeBot?

No evidence for who's running the global ddos scraper network.

Re: Creepy Crawlies

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It says "accused of"

... It also has a quote from Anthropic, admitting they backed off their scraper after a robots.txt update.

Nobody who gives a shit about their software actually working obeys robots.txt. most robots.txt block everything except googlebot, which is an insane policy and you don't have to follow it.

Re: Creepy Crawlies

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Why do you think you can only use the one who's renting them IP addresses?

How good are you personally at iteratively and sequentially jumping through the legal systems of dozens of countries over the course of years, interleaved with genuinely difficult technical investigation, to unmask successive onion-layers of identity in order to unmask one offender? Oh, and it also only takes a few minutes to reconfigure everything and invalidate those years of legal and investigatory work.

Why do you think OpenAI, Anthropic, Bright Data, and Comcast aren't US companies?

Re: Creepy Crawlies

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Botnets will just borrow your id.

Maybe, but at least you can more easily assign responsibility in this case. If you soft-block or hard-block someone because they're in a botnet, you can get them to change (expire the old ones) their credentials and start with clean systems. Maybe they'll realize their TV is part of a botnet if they have to keep doing it, or their PC has malware.

The pattern described in the blog is that one ip makes 4-5 requests and never comes back.
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