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Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by 15155 »

ericmay wrote: post #602
andrepd wrote: post #586

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard not to argue in what metric? The US has Flock cameras spreading like the plague, if we're going purely based on vibes. And the Snowden disclosures about how they spy on their own citizens on a massive scale is over a decade old at this point. Plus, a city covered in CCTV could theoretically be freer than one with much less coverage, if those cameras are recording to encrypted storage and accessible only with a j…

This doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. First, maybe we can just eventually require Flock cameras to also record only to encrypted storage accessible by a judicial warrant. Presumably you are perfectly OK with that? Second, privacy advocates have much to say about being surveilled at all, regardless of whether the data is encrypted or not. They’re opposed to recording at all, not recording and then the judge gets to…

> maybe we can just eventually require Flock cameras to also record only to encrypted storage accessible by a judicial warrant

This is a private company's proprietary photography and derivative works. While counties and states might be able to insist on such stipulations as conditions of use of public right-of-way, no such requirements would be legal otherwise.

Home Depot's CCTV footage is no different than Flock's footage captured from their parking lot.

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by littlecorner »

happymellon wrote: post #583
littlecorner wrote: post #563

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which states? How much? Were these anomalous events that were overturned, or more systematic? These are honest questions I'm having, not trying to argue any narrative

I know it's against the HN rules to suggest that some read the fine article, however the answer to your questions and more are in the first paragraph, and in picture format too!

Ah. I can't currently view the article, and assumed you were making an offhand reference. My apologies; I'll have to save it to view later

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by Steve16384 »

laughing_man wrote: post #78
BeaverGoose wrote: post #8

I'm always surprised how defensive people get in here about privacy when so many corporations have vastly more information about you than the government does.

Corporations can't arrest and jail me. The most they can do is file a lawsuit.

Why are you afraid of arrest and jail time if it's only privacy we're talking about?

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by fyredge »

Tangurena2 wrote: post #635
fyredge wrote: post #502

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Is this [AVPA]( https://avpassociation.com/ )? As far as I can tell, they are a group that benefits from age verification because they directly provide the service. This is typical lobby behaviour? I was not aware that Meta is backing the bill, but based on how they already fingerprint each of their users, I don't see how an additional ID number affects their business model. I'm still left wondering how it affects us…

> because they directly provide the service. This is typical lobby behaviour? Yes. Think of it this way: I make a profit from doing this, therefore I will lobby politicians to make my product mandatory .

Right, but that's typical company behaviour. "Hey I have a product, use me!" Does not seem to be the dystopia level action that the previous commenter implied, unless we know that they are willfully selling the data to third parties, which I won't fully discount, but innocent until proven guilty.

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Post by jiaosdjf »

I knew this was about money and censorship and not just "saving the kids" but I didn't know about all these NGOs, good article.

In the world they want to impose on us, atrocities like Gaza and Epstein would be virtually unknown. We are already seeing clampdowns and police sent to doors as a scare tactic, it only gets worse from here.

We have to be extremely conscious of groups like these, they are enemies of the people and they are actively working to remove our freedoms and rights. Do not underestimate them, do not let them get away with it.

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Post by jiaosdjf »

codedokode wrote: post #480

Here's my idea how "safe mode" might be implemented without selfie, passport and without every app or website owner having to spend money on compliance. The mobile and desktop OS should have a checkbox "child mode" in the onboarding stage. Switching device to "child mode" allows only installing white-listed apps from the government list and opening white-listed websites from the government list. Parents may edit the…

We already have all of this, multiple paid and free solutions exist across all major devices and operating systems, and at an ISP level.

The only thing a parent has to do is turn it on, but apparently even that is too much work for people who would rather hand the state full control of their rights.

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by suslik »

52-6F-62 wrote: post #640
like_any_other wrote: post #596

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> Most of what you described is just disinformation though “We will be a minority in our homeland by 2066” is accurate: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/white-briton... Burning the Koran is not a statement of fact, so it cannot be disinformation. "young white girls are being raped by these grooming gangs" is also accurate (though the precise number is contentious, mostly because the police turned a bli…

lol, this is odd. British =/= Briton And English most certainly =/= Briton. No more than English == Iroquois

I see this a lot, but it depends on how you define these terms. If person A defines British such as British = Briton, you categorically claiming that British =/= Briton is not really an argument, just a statement of belief. An argument would be why you think your definition is better, more correct, etc.

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by jiaosdjf »

tangotaylor wrote: post #223

> A joint statement by Buffy Wicks, the lead author of AB 2273, Jordan Cunningham, another AB 2273 author, and 5Rights Foundation states, “The Bill is practicable and realistic, drawing as it does on the UK’s Age Appropriate Design Code (AADC).” How is Buffy Wicks so damn gullible with tech legislation? Her AB 1043 and AB 1856 (Digital Age Assurance Act), intended to protect children online and regulate Big Tech (but…

All the key people from 5Rights are of a certain demographic that seems to be involved in "knowing whats best for you".

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by littlecorner »

happymellon wrote: post #583
littlecorner wrote: post #563

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which states? How much? Were these anomalous events that were overturned, or more systematic? These are honest questions I'm having, not trying to argue any narrative

I know it's against the HN rules to suggest that some read the fine article, however the answer to your questions and more are in the first paragraph, and in picture format too!

Reading the article, I must clarify my question. You said that there was state level movements prior to the UK. Did you mean that prior to 2023 or 2017 there were US state level efforts? Where was that happening? Sorry for not being clear

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by jiaosdjf »

expedition32 wrote: post #530
stuaxo wrote: post #353

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We have dark money in the UK too and linked to the same orgs it just arrives via different channels.

You cannot make anonymous donations in my country so we know who the Israeli and American agents are.

You think Israel is going to let anonymous donation laws get in their way? This is the country that stole nuclear material from America, has a PAC that bribes 80% of congress and runs the largest blackmail ring in human history.
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