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Well at least HN hasn't (yet?) spawned a murderous death cult. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zizians
Anarchism, eh? If anything, HN cult would be pro-Arch.
TBQH, probably fashy.
Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs
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#662Wow. The list of names of people who've left recently - a who's who, but also quite damning.
Think it's time for Google to reboot itself.
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#663Today I saw one of the most talented engineers I know and worked with leave DeepMind and now I probably know part of the "why". Dark clouds hovering over Google's AI game.
I think Google realized that it's more profitable to sell compute to AI labs than to make AI. They are not an ideologically driven company like Anthropic. They very much turned into a conventional company that just wants to protect the bottom line. This was evident even back when they had LAMDA and refused to release it.
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Once upon a time it would've been unthinkable for Google search to become awful and nearly worthless due, in large part, by Google's discretionary choices. Related - interns these days don't seem to have any particular preference for using Google for finding information...
Can you explain this behavior a little bit more. Where do they seek information - is it a consumer chat app, social media app’s search functions?
Bing because it's the default on their web browsers they've used in college and work.
But moreso - whatever the default is what they use. They have zero attachment to Google.
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#666Demis should have been promoted to full CEO.
This is the reason to sell $GOOG :-(
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It seems there's a big shake up on the underperforming Gemini side. Before there was Shazeer (already gone) and Vinyals as co-leads, reporting to Hassabis, now Gemini comes under Kavukcuoglu reporting direct to Pichai as SVP of DeepMind. Hassabis seems to have been pushed aside. He had been CEO of DeepMind, but that position no longer exists and it seems Kavukcuoglu is now leading DeepMind with a title of SVP. Hassab…
Inevitably, this will lead to Sundar Pichai replacement. I see nothing less. The sooner the better. I can't even tell what Google's focus is, is there any even?
Google? Focus? Huh?
Focus would be the last word that comes to mind. Honestly, ever.
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Part of me thinks Google's entire problem is crappy internal tooling, not really an anti-innovation environment. Just making a dev take 2x as long to get something done has a bigger effect than you'd think. With LLMs it's more like 10x now because even Gemini doesn't understand Google-internal tooling.
Thank you! Google’s tooling was, hands down, the worst I have ever encountered. I did 10 years at GOOG, 3 at AMZN, 4 in research, and another 5 at companies you have heard of but wouldn’t be impressed by, and every day GOOG infuriated me.
You don't measure tooling quality with devs' enjoyment, though, but with what the tools make possible.
Technical merit is not correlated to popularity, after all.
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Correct, but it was preview release. I was referring to GA in my comment.
Does that mean anything at all? They released it. Customers paid for it. Sticking a preview label on it doesn’t change that it was released
btw, GA usually means it is suitable for production, and available globally.
the last time a gemini model was available globally in multiple datacenters was gemini 2.0 era.