I’m a developer from China. So, is this what Hacker News is all about? Whenever a model comes from China, the comments section stops discussing its technical architecture, optimisation points or real-world performance, and instead starts going on about politics, human rights and all that rubbish? To be honest, we Chinese IT professionals possess a genuine geek spirit. That’s why you’re lagging behind in open-source c…
Qwen 3.8
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#662I’m a developer from China. So, is this what Hacker News is all about? Whenever a model comes from China, the comments section stops discussing its technical architecture, optimisation points or real-world performance, and instead starts going on about politics, human rights and all that rubbish? To be honest, we Chinese IT professionals possess a genuine geek spirit. That’s why you’re lagging behind in open-source c…
Re: Qwen 3.8
#663I’m a developer from China. So, is this what Hacker News is all about? Whenever a model comes from China, the comments section stops discussing its technical architecture, optimisation points or real-world performance, and instead starts going on about politics, human rights and all that rubbish? To be honest, we Chinese IT professionals possess a genuine geek spirit. That’s why you’re lagging behind in open-source c…
> human rights and all that rubbish Denying human rights. Classic. Sorry - you instantly lost any respect I could have maybe had for your opinion.
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#664Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any open-weights model that has ever been published can be run on consumer hardware, even on a mini-PC. The right question is which is the speed that can be achieved on a given hardware and whether it is high enough for the model to be useful. Until now, the speeds reported for running big LLMs with the weights stored on SSDs have ranged from as low as a token every 10 seconds or so, to as high as a few tokens per se…
I can only imagine what that does to the poor SSD
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#665I’m a developer from China. So, is this what Hacker News is all about? Whenever a model comes from China, the comments section stops discussing its technical architecture, optimisation points or real-world performance, and instead starts going on about politics, human rights and all that rubbish? To be honest, we Chinese IT professionals possess a genuine geek spirit. That’s why you’re lagging behind in open-source c…
> human rights and all that rubbish Denying human rights. Classic. Sorry - you instantly lost any respect I could have maybe had for your opinion.
Top comments should be criticising US torture camps in Guantanamo bay or their recent bombing of a girls school in Iran.
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#666Earlier quoted context omitted.
What censorship? ;) https://github.com/p-e-w/heretic
What's been your experience using these models? In my experiments, while it is true that the models are less likely to outright refuse to answer "sensitive" questions, they are still very resistant to actually respond in a meaningful / useful way.
Are you using decently reputable weights, or running heretic yourself? This project has many academic citations, it's used by many researchers to create "helpful-only" models and analyze their behaviors.
Re: Qwen 3.8
#667I’m a developer from China. So, is this what Hacker News is all about? Whenever a model comes from China, the comments section stops discussing its technical architecture, optimisation points or real-world performance, and instead starts going on about politics, human rights and all that rubbish? To be honest, we Chinese IT professionals possess a genuine geek spirit. That’s why you’re lagging behind in open-source c…
Re: Qwen 3.8
#668I’m a developer from China. So, is this what Hacker News is all about? Whenever a model comes from China, the comments section stops discussing its technical architecture, optimisation points or real-world performance, and instead starts going on about politics, human rights and all that rubbish? To be honest, we Chinese IT professionals possess a genuine geek spirit. That’s why you’re lagging behind in open-source c…
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#669Earlier quoted context omitted.
What censorship? ;) https://github.com/p-e-w/heretic
You still don't know what's going on in there.
I can use techniques from the simple logit-lens at different layers, to J-Space analysis, to more advanced techniques for identifying deliberate misalignment. I can create and inject steering vectors, whether it's to align a model's CoT (which can be deceptively trained to misinform) closer towards what its underlying activations suggest, or just to probe or steer it.
I can also statistically analyse and understand _if_ steering vectors have been applied; and if so, from the vectors themselves it's very possible to translate those vectors back to the intent.
Think of it as analysing the complete, heavily obfuscated source code of something that is self-contained. It's not 100% the same, but weights are incredibly illuminating.
Re: Qwen 3.8
#670I’m a developer from China. So, is this what Hacker News is all about? Whenever a model comes from China, the comments section stops discussing its technical architecture, optimisation points or real-world performance, and instead starts going on about politics, human rights and all that rubbish? To be honest, we Chinese IT professionals possess a genuine geek spirit. That’s why you’re lagging behind in open-source c…