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Re: Siri AI

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Post by kennywinker »

Schiendelman wrote: post #638
kennywinker wrote: post #448

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If that’s the story you’re trying to tell, where is the query in the image? The image alone doesn’t tell that story. But also: a) do you trust the llm to get it right 100% of the time? Because i’m gonna always read the original message to make sure. And b) just excerpt the message “mike says i love it here at the snow … but i need snowboots” if you’re so desperate to shoehorn LLMs into everything, that’s just as easy…

The query isn't in these screenshots you're seeing online because it was in the video. This particular one I think was missing the query but the others like it had a presenter talking through what they were doing. Complaining about an image pulled off the internet out of context… Come on.

It’s not “pulled off the internet with no context”. It’s the second slide in their marketing presentation about what’s new in siri. The context they chose for it is all around it.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by mingus88 »

stevage wrote: post #653
globular-toast wrote: post #570

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Renting a car isn't a problem I have either. I've rented cars and vans plenty of times. I just phone up and talk to someone or email them. It's really easy. A lot of these "problems" seem to stem from people just not wanting to interact with other people at all. Do we really want to become like Asimov's "Solarians"?

Millennials and below absolutely do want to avoid interactions with strangers. Especially gen Z will go to great lengths to avoid making a phone call. It sucks. This is why none of my local supermarkets have real checkouts anymore.

I don’t think generational stereotypes are at fault here. This is another lazy retread about how Millennials/GenZ killed -insert thing here- straight from businessinsider.com

Nobody wants to make a phone call anymore because most calls are scams; phone networks are terrible and apps have replaced them, like a lot of legacy tech.

Supermarkets make more profit if they pass on the checkout labor to the customer. That’s the whole story.

These generations are disillusioned from decades of decline in our society that have root causes predating any of them.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Planktonne »

abustamam wrote: post #658
Planktonne wrote: post #621

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The OP has already given us context that makes your contrived example unlikely: they want to turn off just the main light, and in a specific bedroom. My extrapolation was reasonable, yours is a reach. There's no reason to hunt for a poor parallel to shut down discussion.

I'm not sure what is being discussed? OP is a bad parent for wanting to turn off exactly one light in his child's bedroom? If so, yes, there is plenty of reason to shut down this discussion.

It's hard to read your comments as in good faith or compliant with the HN guidelines [1]. If you not sure what's being discussed, then you should consider not jumping in and trying to deflect.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Siri AI

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Post by merlindru »

nozzlegear wrote: post #411
merlindru wrote: post #111

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what's worrisome is that they continue to fail at it. it's one thing to say "we're still hashing things out". it's another to parade around Image Generation features that are obviously widely not-cared-for and oftentimes actively disliked Apple cares greatly about their brand yet this has hurt their brand like nothing else in the past decade

Image generation seems like table stakes though, i.e. if you're going to offer a whole ass AI integrated with your operating system, it'd seem like a weird omission not to have image generation included.

i dont agree at all. image generation feels very odd for Apple.

and usually they don't care about glaring omissions like this, either: iPadOS was lacking a calculator for yeeeeaaaars.

they repeatedly said they'd ship a calculator if they can do something special for its introduction, and only then.

so why did they lose their hesitancy to ship mediocre stuff here?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by haritha-j »

jorisw wrote: post #534
haritha-j wrote: post #523

The only way Siri will meaningfully save my time would be if it could doomscroll for me. All of the things Siri claims to automate here would save me maybe a couple of minutes total over a week, wouldn't make the tiniest dent in my screen time.

> if it could doomscroll for me I don't understand. Are you so little in control of your own self that you now need an embedded AI to do something for you that was already a complete waste of time and energy? Just delete the apps.

The point I was trying to make was that consumer AI on mobile devices won't save people time in any significant way because people don't spend a lot of time on their phone doing things that are automatable. Everything mentioned here is a tiny portion of people's phone use compared to things like doomscrolling, video calls etc. So there is no real value to any of these tools.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by microtonal »

mnicky wrote: post #642
microtonal wrote: post #562

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And even if I organized a hike to Big Sur, Apple Maps would be pretty worthless because it doesn't have trail visualization and navigation worth speaking of (ok, maybe in Big Sur, but certainly not the rest of the world). So I end up pulling out the trusty old Garmin gpsmap with cycle/hiking maps, that survived drops from 1.5 meters at 30 km/h as I was gliding of a mountain with my bike.

I recommend mapy.com (mobile app and web app too when on computer) - they mostly use OSM data and rendering of map tiles is great. Also offline maps etc.

There are several great options, besides mapy, e.g. Organic Maps and CoMaps also work pretty great. There are also some really good bike optimized apps (like NodeMapp for the Dutch cycle network).

But I generally prefer to use a Garmin GPS or watch. They work for days without charging (the older models even work with two AA batteries), very robust (e.g. their gpsr survives drops), work well offline, and transflective displays work better in direct sunlight.

For planned routes, I make then in NodeMapp or some other focused application and send the GPX overs to a gpsmap unit or Fenix watch. Many national parks, etc. also have great GPX files for recommended hiking/cycling routes.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by charcircuit »

lxgr wrote: post #583
charcircuit wrote: post #180

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You can easily change your account region back and forth on iOS. Meanwhile Android has a bunch of extra checks and includes a 12 months delay before being able to switch it again.

Not if you have any balance or ongoing subscription, including an iCloud storage one. I would not exactly call this "easy". On Android you can just have two accounts logged in at the same time, so there's no need to switch regions in the first place.

From my personal experience I found it easier as a user. I had no balance or subscriptions at the time so I could quickly switch regions back and forth to get all the apps I wanted.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by charcircuit »

sooheon wrote: post #330
charcircuit wrote: post #180

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You can easily change your account region back and forth on iOS. Meanwhile Android has a bunch of extra checks and includes a 12 months delay before being able to switch it again.

A family member lost years of irreplaceable photos and paid apps due to account lock, and doing this across two countries they were legitimately residing in triggered it.

In my experience it only locked me out (of just the payment or account settings I think) for like 24 hours when I switched like 4 times in a single day.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by projektfu »

Planktonne wrote: post #573
rafaelmn wrote: post #384

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>Siri turn off the main light in children's bedroom 100% of the time turns of all the lights in children's bedroom. Alexa has no problem with this. Disappointing to say the least. Completely useless, I was going to get an Android this year on upgrade cycle. Will check this out first.

> Siri turn off the main light in children's bedroom This is a fascinating example. You would initially assume it's just inconvenient versus flipping a switch--this can't be labour-saving by default. The only way it makes sense is if you're doing it remotely; from another room, you're putting your children to bed. That's even weirder though, because you're taking what should be a moment of connection/care and trying…

Maybe you want to put your kid to bed, they want the light on while they're falling asleep. Twenty minutes later you're back in your room and you don't want to disturb them, so you turn off the light remotely.

I also have a "go to bed" scene that turns on a couple lights so I can see the stairs and turns off most lights around the house.

I don't really need AI to do it, I can just use the app, but Alexa usually gets the job done and I don't need to look at my phone.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by watwut »

p_j_w wrote: post #606
watwut wrote: post #593

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Eating disorder as a service does indeed sound like a business plan.

Why would having goals on fiber, protein, and vitamin intake be an eating disorder?

When the urgency and complexity of those goals becomes so high that it creates daily burden, you are in the eating disorder territory.
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